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[JG8191]

Just frustrated after losing with KK for the 4th time in two hours... I just need to vent with this hand... I have PlayerView running all the time so never felt I was in danger of running into a character with AA. The whole table was raising and seeing the flop with just about any two cards. Maybe I should have feared someone with a small pair flopping a set but the two people that were raising were raising with anything. Would you all have played this the same way?Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP2 with Kd, Kc. UTG calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, Button calls, SB 3-bets, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls, Hero caps, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.Flop: (24 SB) 8h, 3d, 7d (6 players)SB bets, BB folds, UTG calls, MP1 calls, Hero raises, Button calls, SB 3-bets, UTG calls, MP1 caps, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls, UTG calls.Turn: (22 BB) 4h (5 players)SB bets, UTG calls, MP1 calls, Hero raises, Button calls, SB calls, UTG calls $0.88 (All-In), MP1 calls.River: (31.88 BB) 9h (5 players, 1 all-in)SB checks, MP1 bets, Hero raises, Button folds, SB folds, MP1 calls.Final Pot: 35.88 BBResults below: UTG has 6c 6h (one pair, sixes). MP1 has 9d 9c (three of a kind, nines). Hero has Kd Kc (one pair, kings). Outcome: MP1 wins 35.88 BB.

[Vade]

Check/call the river3 to the flush and 3 to the straight on boardOther then the river raise this looks fine

[knght311]

[quote="JG8191"]Just frustrated after losing with KK for the 4th time in two hours... I just need to vent with this hand... I have PlayerView running all the time so never felt I was in danger of running into a character with AA. The whole table was raising and seeing the flop with just about any two cards. Maybe I should have feared someone with a small pair flopping a set but the two people that were raising were raising with anything. Would you all have played this the same way?Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converterI need not read anymore than this...playing limit you can not get stuck on big pairs like KK AA or QQ without a set. With 9 players at a limit table I couldnt imagine any big pair holding up...ever. It is mighty frustrating though.If you are catching KK 2 times an hour, maybe you should move to NL and make some money

[Emptyeye]

Vade said:

Check/call the river3 to the flush and 3 to the straight on boardOther then the river raise this looks fine

not sure I particularly like the raise on the turn, either, actually. Sb hasn't slowed down, and he could very well have had you beaten (I'd say "though why he'd check/fold the river confuses me", but I've actually made similar moves..my guess is he had some other overpair and figured he was beat by two-pair/a set/some stupid runner-runner draw), to say nothing about the other 8 million people holding on with god only knows what (The runner-runner draw is sadly not as unreasonable as it should be).And yeah, raising the river is really just asking for it by that point.

[KDawgCometh]

the turn raise sucks. since you didn't cap the flop you need to go into call down mode

[wrto4556]

Call the flop, raise the turn.

[wrto4556]

I hate not elaborating so here gos:The pot is so big that a raise on the flop does nothing to protect your hand. If you raise you are giving everyone about 12-1 which is good enough to call with just about anything. But on the turn you have a chance to protect your hand. Call because raising does nothing, then raise the turn.