simo_8ball 1 Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 Full Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $0.50/$16 playersConverterHero: $241.60UTG+1: $272.95Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with T 8 UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises to $4, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.Flop: 6 5 T ($16.5, 4 players)BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $10, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls.Turn: 8 ($36.5, 2 players)UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $25, UTG+1 raises all-in $258.95, Hero folds.Standard? Link to post Share on other sites
usd2usf2mlb 0 Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 Standard. You are either looking at the baby straight (47) or a set and he is protecting against something like 710 or some other hand with an open-ended straight in it. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 Gross. I could see a set maybe but never a straight doing this. Maybe a hand like Txcc or something. T9cc, T7cc. The board is so drawy that I think that you really should call here. You beat all other 2 pair combinations and since I don't think he'd play a straight like this, the only hand that I'm worrying about that currently beats me is a set. He probably has some huge combo draw or even a lesser 2 pair I mean, if he'd play a set like this, he'd definitely play 56 or 68 or something similarly.I think you should be calling here unless you have a good read on what this means from him. Also, since you raised preflop, his pushing range here might include any hand that beats a big pair, so he might be pushing 56 for value here thinking you may or may not call with KK or whatever. Link to post Share on other sites
darkrider88 0 Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 Very tough spot, but this is not an easy fold. Other two pair combos, even a flush draw with a pair is possible now. I think a set is much more likely than a straight here, since a straight wouldn't want to push you out but a set could want to protect his hand when the 2nd club and straight card hit (the same logic applies to 2 pair). I hate it but probably call. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted August 4, 2007 Author Share Posted August 4, 2007 He was 45/10 preflop. No real info on his postflop play though. Link to post Share on other sites
sabes99 0 Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 i pretty much agree with acid, only difference is i probably would end up chickening out and folding Link to post Share on other sites
RollTheDice 0 Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 Acid makes some good points and agree for the most part if the player in question was aggresive enough postflop. From my experiance though players with stats like 40/10 are generally passive post flop and arn't raising without made hands. Because of this i discount combo draws ect from his range unless he has an adequate post flop aggression factor.I agree with Acid again that i am only afraid of a set in this spot, and the fact that we have top 2 makes a set less likely than usual. Villain plays a set in the same fashion as any other 2 pair and the combination of hands we beat outweights the hands that have us crushed. For this reason i make the call being fully prepared to stack off against a set because of all the times he has 2 pair that we beat. I find a muck here with anything less than top 2 though. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 Hero folds.Standard?SOOOOOO standard. Link to post Share on other sites
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