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[sierradave]

Caesar's Atlantic City $1/2 nl

Hero is in the cutoff with about $700. Villain is button with ~$600. Villain and BB are here for a bachelor party. They like to play aggressive, they like to raise a lot, particularly preflop, and they've hit some huge hands so their stacks have gotten impressive.

I've gotten almost no playable cards for the past couple hours and have developed an unfortunate nut-hunger table image where people who are calling anyone else's $15 preflop raise actually consider laying their hand down to me.

Preflop: two players limp, I pick up QcQs in the cutoff, decide there's a good chance that the button or BB will raise it for me, letting me limp-reraise the table. Button limps, sb completes, bb unfortunately calls. So much for getting creative...

Flop (6 players, $12): 8s5d2s

Action is checked around to me, I bet $12. Button min-raises to $25, everyone else folds. Board is semi-coordinated, which sucks, but I think if I reraise here, I win a lot of small pots and lose any and all big ones. I decide to try rope-a-dope instead. Call.

Turn (2 players: $62): 4h

That completed one draw, but nothing awful. I check, villain bets $40, I call.

River (2 players: $142): Jc

I check, villain bets $32. I think it's $42, which seems like he's trying to extract value, so I just call. Not sure if I would've check-raised the river if I'd realized he underbet. I think he calls another $50 or so with any one-pair holding, but if he reraises hard, I won't know if it's a drunken testosterone bluff or not.

I called and asked if he could beat one pair and he replied "depends on which pair." Never saw his hand, but it sounded from his post-hand ramblings like he was getting frisky with ace-5.

Good use of rope-a-dope? Too timid? Don't ever try that lame-*** limp-reraise from late position again?

[trystero]

I think you played the hand fine based on your read of the players. You knew they were raising a lot of pots so you went for the limp-reraise. Nothing wrong with that, I guess, but I never do the move myself. In this case it might get some action because your opponents would figure you'd never limp behind with a big pair.

Villain doesn't sound like an idiot...he sounds like a competent LAG of sorts. Now a decent LAG folds almost every pair on that board once you 3-bet the flop. He knows that if you reraise then you've got one pair beaten, so you're only getting action when woefully behind. He has to be bad at poker to make that line a profitable one. Remember your image. It's a passive line, but one that works against your opponent.

[bdc30]

Preflop: two players limp, I pick up QcQs in the cutoff, decide there's a good chance that the button or BB will raise it for me, letting me limp-reraise the table. Button limps, sb completes, bb unfortunately calls. So much for getting creative...

Don't ever try that lame-*** limp-reraise from late position again.

/post

there are two limpers in front of you and you're in the cutoff - this is a MUST raise - AND adjust your raise size for the two limpers as well. At least $10-15. Trying a limp/re-raise is ok from UTG or UTG1 if you're at an aggro table but at the same point, it also usually telegraphs your hand. No need to get cute.

[sabes99]

yuck, that limp re-raise is really bad...even if they consider laying down their hand when you raise it, don't you think they will still call much more often than they probably should? raise to around $10 here every single time...even if they do a lot of raising, if they are calling a lot also you should still take the initiative and be the one raising it up

against this villain, you probably need to be re-raising the flop here, since you've apparently considered yourself to be "trapping"...one pair on this board is not a hand you really want to try to lure people with, you want to extract money while you have the best of it and make draws pay

as played on the flop, the turn and river are fine

[mtdesmoines]

Caesar's Atlantic City $1/2 nl

Hero is in the cutoff with about $700. Villain is button with ~$600. Villain and BB are here for a bachelor party. They like to play aggressive, they like to raise a lot, particularly preflop, and they've hit some huge hands so their stacks have gotten impressive.

I've gotten almost no playable cards for the past couple hours and have developed an unfortunate nut-hunger table image where people who are calling anyone else's $15 preflop raise actually consider laying their hand down to me.

Preflop: two players limp, I pick up QcQs in the cutoff, decide there's a good chance that the button or BB will raise it for me, letting me limp-reraise the table. Button limps, sb completes, bb unfortunately calls. So much for getting creative...

Flop (6 players, $12): 8s5d2s

Action is checked around to me, I bet $12. Button min-raises to $25, everyone else folds. Board is semi-coordinated, which sucks, but I think if I reraise here, I win a lot of small pots and lose any and all big ones. I decide to try rope-a-dope instead. Call.

Turn (2 players: $62): 4h

That completed one draw, but nothing awful. I check, villain bets $40, I call.

River (2 players: $142): Jc

I check, villain bets $32. I think it's $42, which seems like he's trying to extract value, so I just call. Not sure if I would've check-raised the river if I'd realized he underbet. I think he calls another $50 or so with any one-pair holding, but if he reraises hard, I won't know if it's a drunken testosterone bluff or not.

I called and asked if he could beat one pair and he replied "depends on which pair." Never saw his hand, but it sounded from his post-hand ramblings like he was getting frisky with ace-5.

Good use of rope-a-dope? Too timid? Don't ever try that lame-*** limp-reraise from late position again?

Just a couple thoughts. One, getting fancy got you lost in this hand. If you had raised PF, you wouldn't get as scared of a straight as you were.

Second, a raise might let the villain put you on A5 and he might bet harder into you, making you more money.