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[Big Mike Watters]

An example of what it's been like this weekend on Riverstars...

PokerStars Game #11198818682: Tournament #56065420, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/07/29 - 12:42:40 (ET)
Table '56065420 75' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Thor96 (3460 in chips)
Seat 2: popyocolla (2350 in chips)
Seat 3: PETBOY111 (1015 in chips)
Seat 4: 2bthebest (1125 in chips) FCP'er!!!
Seat 5: pjd 54 (450 in chips)
Seat 6: Sharlord (3475 in chips)
Seat 7: bigmike411 (2400 in chips) Your hero
Seat 8: scheffe30 (2255 in chips)
Seat 9: Bluff me 2 (4897 in chips)
pjd 54: posts small blind 100
Sharlord: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bigmike411 [9s Js]
bigmike411: calls 200
scheffe30: folds
Bluff me 2: raises 400 to 600
Thor96: folds
popyocolla: folds
PETBOY111: folds
2bthebest: folds
pjd 54: folds
Sharlord: folds
bigmike411: calls 400
*** FLOP *** [4c 6d 9h]
bigmike411: bets 1800 and is all-in
Bluff me 2: calls 1800
*** TURN *** [4c 6d 9h] [Td]
*** RIVER *** [4c 6d 9h Td] [8d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bigmike411: shows [9s Js] (a pair of Nines)
Bluff me 2: shows [4d Ad] (a flush, Ace high)
Bluff me 2 collected 5100 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5100 | Rake 0
Board [4c 6d 9h Td 8d]
Seat 1: Thor96 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: popyocolla folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: PETBOY111 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: 2bthebest (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: pjd 54 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Sharlord (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: bigmike411 showed [9s Js] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 8: scheffe30 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Bluff me 2 showed [4d Ad] and won (5100) with a flush, Ace high

What the f**k does a guy gotta do to get an a**hole to lay down a hand? Make all the comments you want about overbetting or not overplaying my hand...I got BOTTOM F**KING PAIR and a BACKDOOR flush draw, I'm laying it down for half my stack when my weak *** hand I tried to steal with gets called. Discuss.

[grocery_mony]

Limping utg with j9? Solid!

[teddyAA]

Calling out of position with J9 for a quarter of your chips...very solid indeed.

[Big Mike Watters]

Thanks. I'm talking about the call after the flop. I never claimed to be a good player...

[rogerwilco]

You have to play higher stakes tournaments. The donks in $10 tourneys just don't respect your raises.

[Big Mike Watters]

Here's a hand I let get there...thank you very much Riverstars...

PokerStars Game #11199708003: Tournament #56066223, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/07/29 - 13:40:38 (ET)
Table '56066223 312' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: puresqueezed (11160 in chips)
Seat 2: Stirdawg84 (2095 in chips)
Seat 3: wcsplayer (1290 in chips)
Seat 4: torc878 (3150 in chips)
Seat 5: bigmike411 (4090 in chips) Your Hero
Seat 6: bullets@you (6130 in chips)
Seat 7: MrSelfish (1875 in chips)
Seat 8: J-Birdz (3260 in chips)
Seat 9: GordoAK (8100 in chips)
torc878: posts small blind 25
bigmike411: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bigmike411 [As Ac]
bullets@you: calls 50
MrSelfish: calls 50
J-Birdz: calls 50
GordoAK: folds
puresqueezed: folds
Stirdawg84: folds
wcsplayer: calls 50
torc878: calls 25
bigmike411: raises 300 to 350
bullets@you: folds
MrSelfish: calls 300
J-Birdz: folds
wcsplayer: calls 300
torc878: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [Kc 3s 4d]
torc878: checks
bigmike411: checks
MrSelfish: checks
wcsplayer: checks
*** TURN *** [Kc 3s 4d] [9h]
torc878: bets 600
bigmike411: calls 600
MrSelfish: folds
wcsplayer: folds
*** RIVER *** [Kc 3s 4d 9h] [4h]
torc878: bets 1400
bigmike411: calls 1400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
torc878: shows [5c 4c] (three of a kind, Fours)
bigmike411: mucks hand
torc878 collected 5500 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5500 | Rake 0
Board [Kc 3s 4d 9h 4h]
Seat 1: puresqueezed folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Stirdawg84 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: wcsplayer (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: torc878 (small blind) showed [5c 4c] and won (5500) with three of a kind, Fours
Seat 5: bigmike411 (big blind) mucked [As Ac]
Seat 6: bullets@you folded before Flop
Seat 7: MrSelfish folded on the Turn
Seat 8: J-Birdz folded before Flop
Seat 9: GordoAK folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Yup...called with 45s he did. I slow played it like ur not supposed to...but hell man...it wouldn't have mattered. I coulda pushed, he woulda called, and the river woulda f**ked me again.

I don't know if ur bein' funny about the playing higher stakes...but it seems to me that I hear these stories at all levels. LOL

Ah well. On to the next donk fest...

[Big Mike Watters]

Here's another one...MOTHER F**KING POKERSTARS

PokerStars Game #11200392533: Tournament #56066222, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/07/29 - 14:21:24 (ET)
Table '56066222 2' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Liefhebber (1910 in chips)
Seat 2: mustcall (1370 in chips)
Seat 3: bigmike411 (1270 in chips) ME
Seat 4: kmnix03 (6740 in chips)
Seat 5: het mondje (1715 in chips)
Seat 6: mcstan (2600 in chips)
Seat 7: nel79 (1415 in chips)
Seat 8: Spooky_M@n (1745 in chips)
Seat 9: borys111111 (1410 in chips)
borys111111: posts small blind 25
Liefhebber: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bigmike411 [Kc Ad]
mustcall: folds
bigmike411: raises 200 to 250
kmnix03: calls 250
het mondje: calls 250
mcstan: folds
nel79: folds
Spooky_M@n: folds
borys111111: folds
Liefhebber: folds
*** FLOP *** [Th 7h 3s]
bigmike411: checks
kmnix03: bets 250
het mondje: folds
bigmike411: raises 770 to 1020 and is all-in
kmnix03: calls 770
*** TURN *** [Th 7h 3s] [Jh]
*** RIVER *** [Th 7h 3s Jh] [Ks]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bigmike411: shows [Kc Ad] (a pair of Kings)
kmnix03: shows [Kh 6h] (a flush, King high)
kmnix03 collected 2865 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2865 | Rake 0
Board [Th 7h 3s Jh Ks]
Seat 1: Liefhebber (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: mustcall folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: bigmike411 showed [Kc Ad] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: kmnix03 showed [Kh 6h] and won (2865) with a flush, King high
Seat 5: het mondje folded on the Flop
Seat 6: mcstan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: nel79 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Spooky_M@n (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: borys111111 (small blind) folded before Flop


Not the river...but WHAT THE F**K


This has been happening all weekend....get the money in with the best hand...get f**ked. Seriously...stay away from Pokerstars, folks.

[fiftytwo52]

You're just a bad player.

[ScreenDreams]

Quit your whining. You old man.

First of all its $10 buckz.

2nd of all, you will prefer players to make these bad calls.

3rd. you need some anger management classes, or some counseling. Or a friend to talk to instead of venting online and trying to have someone feel sry 4.

[Big Mike Watters]

Quit your whining. You old man. No...I will not quit whining. That's what the Bad Beat Forum is for.

First of all its $10 buckz. So what? Doesn't make it suck any worse. That's the problem I got with allotta folks... "It's only ten bucks"....then go play video poker.

2nd of all, you will prefer players to make these bad calls. Yes I would...except that I've been on the losing end of all of them for the past three days. If I was so motivated, I could find at least 7 or 8 tournament hands this weekend alone to bust or almost bust me out of tournaments.

3rd. you need some anger management classes, or some counseling. Or a friend to talk to instead of venting online and trying to have someone feel sry 4. Nobody I know cares about poker or my bad beats....so I come here. This is my anger management. So zip it.

[Big Mike Watters]

You're just a bad player.

Perhaps. But in every case, I had the best hand when the money went in. So if that makes me bad, then I wanna get worse.

[HubDub04]

LOL.

People who have ZERO concept of variance are the people who pad my bankroll and I love it!

[Big Mike Watters]

Variance schmariance...if you've had my weekend you'd be steaming too.

[rogerwilco]

Variance schmariance...if you've had my weekend you'd be steaming too.

Ok, a serious reply: I understand your frustration and I sympathise, I've been getting beaten up terribly in tournaments too lately.
But you played both of these hands really badly - it would be good for you to reflect on your game instead of just pitying yourself... Running bad and playing bad usually go together.

[Big Mike Watters]

Thank you for your response. I understand what you're saying...I don't claim to be the best or even good...but I do know when I got it in, I had the best hand....even calling that hand with AK. If I'm being bitten by the poker gods...c'est la vie I suppose.

Not that you're obligated, but if you had a different way to play, I'd appreciate a lesson.

[rogerwilco]

ok, first hand: fold preflop. (fullstop, nothing more to say really, don't even limp with such a hand from early position) And the push on the flop is highly risky as well.
second hand: bet flop (somewhere between 1/2 and 3/4 the pot) - you don't want to give a free card to three opponents with just one pair, raise turn (possibly all-in depending on the stack sizes)
third hand: raise less preflop (3xBB usually is the standard when opening the betting), flop is debatable but not too bad. You aren't even that big of a favourite here though.

[Big Mike Watters]

Thank you very much sir...I sincerely appreciate the advice...I'm always learning.

[BeaverStyle]

Check my bad beat thread. These 'beats' you're taking are laughable compared to mine... no offense.

[Big Mike Watters]

None taken. I was on my rag...LOL

[CubsFan26]

You have to play higher stakes tournaments. The donks in $10 tourneys just don't respect your raises.

doesn't really happen in the higher stakes either