Big Mike Watters 0 Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 An example of what it's been like this weekend on Riverstars...PokerStars Game #11198818682: Tournament #56065420, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/07/29 - 12:42:40 (ET)Table '56065420 75' 9-max Seat #4 is the buttonSeat 1: Thor96 (3460 in chips) Seat 2: popyocolla (2350 in chips) Seat 3: PETBOY111 (1015 in chips) Seat 4: 2bthebest (1125 in chips) FCP'er!!!Seat 5: pjd 54 (450 in chips) Seat 6: Sharlord (3475 in chips) Seat 7: bigmike411 (2400 in chips) Your heroSeat 8: scheffe30 (2255 in chips) Seat 9: Bluff me 2 (4897 in chips) pjd 54: posts small blind 100Sharlord: posts big blind 200*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to bigmike411 [9s Js]bigmike411: calls 200scheffe30: folds Bluff me 2: raises 400 to 600Thor96: folds popyocolla: folds PETBOY111: folds 2bthebest: folds pjd 54: folds Sharlord: folds bigmike411: calls 400*** FLOP *** [4c 6d 9h]bigmike411: bets 1800 and is all-inBluff me 2: calls 1800*** TURN *** [4c 6d 9h] [Td]*** RIVER *** [4c 6d 9h Td] [8d]*** SHOW DOWN ***bigmike411: shows [9s Js] (a pair of Nines)Bluff me 2: shows [4d Ad] (a flush, Ace high)Bluff me 2 collected 5100 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 5100 | Rake 0 Board [4c 6d 9h Td 8d]Seat 1: Thor96 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: popyocolla folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: PETBOY111 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: 2bthebest (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: pjd 54 (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 6: Sharlord (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 7: bigmike411 showed [9s Js] and lost with a pair of NinesSeat 8: scheffe30 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: Bluff me 2 showed [4d Ad] and won (5100) with a flush, Ace highWhat the f**k does a guy gotta do to get an a**hole to lay down a hand? Make all the comments you want about overbetting or not overplaying my hand...I got BOTTOM F**KING PAIR and a BACKDOOR flush draw, I'm laying it down for half my stack when my weak *** hand I tried to steal with gets called. Discuss. Link to post Share on other sites
grocery_mony 9 Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Limping utg with j9? Solid! Link to post Share on other sites
teddyAA 0 Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Calling out of position with J9 for a quarter of your chips...very solid indeed. Link to post Share on other sites
Big Mike Watters 0 Posted July 29, 2007 Author Share Posted July 29, 2007 Thanks. I'm talking about the call after the flop. I never claimed to be a good player... Link to post Share on other sites
rogerwilco 0 Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 You have to play higher stakes tournaments. The donks in $10 tourneys just don't respect your raises. Link to post Share on other sites
Big Mike Watters 0 Posted July 29, 2007 Author Share Posted July 29, 2007 Here's a hand I let get there...thank you very much Riverstars...PokerStars Game #11199708003: Tournament #56066223, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/07/29 - 13:40:38 (ET)Table '56066223 312' 9-max Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 1: puresqueezed (11160 in chips) Seat 2: Stirdawg84 (2095 in chips) Seat 3: wcsplayer (1290 in chips) Seat 4: torc878 (3150 in chips) Seat 5: bigmike411 (4090 in chips) Your HeroSeat 6: bullets@you (6130 in chips) Seat 7: MrSelfish (1875 in chips) Seat 8: J-Birdz (3260 in chips) Seat 9: GordoAK (8100 in chips) torc878: posts small blind 25bigmike411: posts big blind 50*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to bigmike411 [As Ac]bullets@you: calls 50MrSelfish: calls 50J-Birdz: calls 50GordoAK: folds puresqueezed: folds Stirdawg84: folds wcsplayer: calls 50torc878: calls 25bigmike411: raises 300 to 350bullets@you: folds MrSelfish: calls 300J-Birdz: folds wcsplayer: calls 300torc878: calls 300*** FLOP *** [Kc 3s 4d]torc878: checks bigmike411: checks MrSelfish: checks wcsplayer: checks *** TURN *** [Kc 3s 4d] [9h]torc878: bets 600bigmike411: calls 600MrSelfish: folds wcsplayer: folds *** RIVER *** [Kc 3s 4d 9h] [4h]torc878: bets 1400bigmike411: calls 1400*** SHOW DOWN ***torc878: shows [5c 4c] (three of a kind, Fours)bigmike411: mucks hand torc878 collected 5500 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 5500 | Rake 0 Board [Kc 3s 4d 9h 4h]Seat 1: puresqueezed folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: Stirdawg84 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: wcsplayer (button) folded on the TurnSeat 4: torc878 (small blind) showed [5c 4c] and won (5500) with three of a kind, FoursSeat 5: bigmike411 (big blind) mucked [As Ac]Seat 6: bullets@you folded before FlopSeat 7: MrSelfish folded on the TurnSeat 8: J-Birdz folded before FlopSeat 9: GordoAK folded before Flop (didn't bet)Yup...called with 45s he did. I slow played it like ur not supposed to...but hell man...it wouldn't have mattered. I coulda pushed, he woulda called, and the river woulda f**ked me again. I don't know if ur bein' funny about the playing higher stakes...but it seems to me that I hear these stories at all levels. LOLAh well. On to the next donk fest... Link to post Share on other sites
Big Mike Watters 0 Posted July 29, 2007 Author Share Posted July 29, 2007 Here's another one...MOTHER F**KING POKERSTARSPokerStars Game #11200392533: Tournament #56066222, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/07/29 - 14:21:24 (ET)Table '56066222 2' 9-max Seat #8 is the buttonSeat 1: Liefhebber (1910 in chips) Seat 2: mustcall (1370 in chips) Seat 3: bigmike411 (1270 in chips) MESeat 4: kmnix03 (6740 in chips) Seat 5: het mondje (1715 in chips) Seat 6: mcstan (2600 in chips) Seat 7: nel79 (1415 in chips) Seat 8: Spooky_M@n (1745 in chips) Seat 9: borys111111 (1410 in chips) borys111111: posts small blind 25Liefhebber: posts big blind 50*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to bigmike411 [Kc Ad]mustcall: folds bigmike411: raises 200 to 250kmnix03: calls 250het mondje: calls 250mcstan: folds nel79: folds Spooky_M@n: folds borys111111: folds Liefhebber: folds *** FLOP *** [Th 7h 3s]bigmike411: checks kmnix03: bets 250het mondje: folds bigmike411: raises 770 to 1020 and is all-inkmnix03: calls 770*** TURN *** [Th 7h 3s] [Jh]*** RIVER *** [Th 7h 3s Jh] [Ks]*** SHOW DOWN ***bigmike411: shows [Kc Ad] (a pair of Kings)kmnix03: shows [Kh 6h] (a flush, King high)kmnix03 collected 2865 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 2865 | Rake 0 Board [Th 7h 3s Jh Ks]Seat 1: Liefhebber (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 2: mustcall folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: bigmike411 showed [Kc Ad] and lost with a pair of KingsSeat 4: kmnix03 showed [Kh 6h] and won (2865) with a flush, King highSeat 5: het mondje folded on the FlopSeat 6: mcstan folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: nel79 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: Spooky_M@n (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: borys111111 (small blind) folded before FlopNot the river...but WHAT THE F**KThis has been happening all weekend....get the money in with the best hand...get f**ked. Seriously...stay away from Pokerstars, folks. Link to post Share on other sites
fiftytwo52 0 Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 You're just a bad player. Link to post Share on other sites
ScreenDreams 0 Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Quit your whining. You old man. First of all its $10 buckz. 2nd of all, you will prefer players to make these bad calls.3rd. you need some anger management classes, or some counseling. Or a friend to talk to instead of venting online and trying to have someone feel sry 4. Link to post Share on other sites
Big Mike Watters 0 Posted July 29, 2007 Author Share Posted July 29, 2007 Quit your whining. You old man. No...I will not quit whining. That's what the Bad Beat Forum is for.First of all its $10 buckz. So what? Doesn't make it suck any worse. That's the problem I got with allotta folks... "It's only ten bucks"....then go play video poker.2nd of all, you will prefer players to make these bad calls. Yes I would...except that I've been on the losing end of all of them for the past three days. If I was so motivated, I could find at least 7 or 8 tournament hands this weekend alone to bust or almost bust me out of tournaments.3rd. you need some anger management classes, or some counseling. Or a friend to talk to instead of venting online and trying to have someone feel sry 4. Nobody I know cares about poker or my bad beats....so I come here. This is my anger management. So zip it. Link to post Share on other sites
Big Mike Watters 0 Posted July 29, 2007 Author Share Posted July 29, 2007 You're just a bad player.Perhaps. But in every case, I had the best hand when the money went in. So if that makes me bad, then I wanna get worse. Link to post Share on other sites
HubDub04 0 Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 LOL.People who have ZERO concept of variance are the people who pad my bankroll and I love it! Link to post Share on other sites
Big Mike Watters 0 Posted July 29, 2007 Author Share Posted July 29, 2007 Variance schmariance...if you've had my weekend you'd be steaming too. Link to post Share on other sites
rogerwilco 0 Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Variance schmariance...if you've had my weekend you'd be steaming too.Ok, a serious reply: I understand your frustration and I sympathise, I've been getting beaten up terribly in tournaments too lately.But you played both of these hands really badly - it would be good for you to reflect on your game instead of just pitying yourself... Running bad and playing bad usually go together. Link to post Share on other sites
Big Mike Watters 0 Posted July 29, 2007 Author Share Posted July 29, 2007 Thank you for your response. I understand what you're saying...I don't claim to be the best or even good...but I do know when I got it in, I had the best hand....even calling that hand with AK. If I'm being bitten by the poker gods...c'est la vie I suppose.Not that you're obligated, but if you had a different way to play, I'd appreciate a lesson. Link to post Share on other sites
rogerwilco 0 Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 ok, first hand: fold preflop. (fullstop, nothing more to say really, don't even limp with such a hand from early position) And the push on the flop is highly risky as well.second hand: bet flop (somewhere between 1/2 and 3/4 the pot) - you don't want to give a free card to three opponents with just one pair, raise turn (possibly all-in depending on the stack sizes)third hand: raise less preflop (3xBB usually is the standard when opening the betting), flop is debatable but not too bad. You aren't even that big of a favourite here though. Link to post Share on other sites
Big Mike Watters 0 Posted July 29, 2007 Author Share Posted July 29, 2007 Thank you very much sir...I sincerely appreciate the advice...I'm always learning. Link to post Share on other sites
BeaverStyle 1 Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Check my bad beat thread. These 'beats' you're taking are laughable compared to mine... no offense. Link to post Share on other sites
Big Mike Watters 0 Posted July 30, 2007 Author Share Posted July 30, 2007 None taken. I was on my rag...LOL Link to post Share on other sites
CubsFan26 0 Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 You have to play higher stakes tournaments. The donks in $10 tourneys just don't respect your raises.doesn't really happen in the higher stakes either Link to post Share on other sites
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