Hendon Mob 100+9 Ds

[Naked_Cowboy 0]

AB is Aaron Bartley. I was moved to the table about 20 minutes ago and I've seen him 3 times raise 1 and 2 gap paint / half paint from this position and c-bet every flop (all 3 got to showdown). Specifically, two orbits ago, he raised J9o and I called with 55 from the BB. Flop came 44T, i checked to him, he bet (this was the 3rd time), I raised, he flat called (Turn J, he didn't bet). Full Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $80/$1609 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $4662UTG+1: $2818MP1: $6357MP2: $4610AB: $13320CO: $8275Hero: $4965SB: $4903BB: $2270Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with 7 7 4 folds, AB raises to $480, CO folds, Hero calls, 2 folds.Flop: 5 6 8 ($1200, 2 players)AB bets $800.Are we raising (if so how much), calling, or folding here?

[gobears 0]

I raise here - normal raise would be 2400 for me but that's more than 1/2 your stack. I shove as you're ahead of any overcards and if he's ahead, you've got ten outs twice for plenty of outs.

[Zelphade 0]

I have seen AB play alot and he seems like a crazy player who will bet/raise with anything. I think you have to raise and probably should just push all in. As gobears said even if your beat at the moment u stilll have plenty of outs to make your hand.

[simo_8ball 1]

This is a pretty standard shove with the stacks being what they are. The pot is getting large and there is no point in being cute by making a smaller raise. We could smooth call, but then the pot will be 2800 on the turn and we will have ~3700 left. I don't see why we should give him a chance to catch with missed overcards.

[WhatArunAA 0]

This is a pretty standard shove with the stacks being what they are. The pot is getting large and there is no point in being cute by making a smaller raise. We could smooth call, but then the pot will be 2800 on the turn and we will have ~3700 left. I don't see why we should give him a chance to catch with missed overcards.

no.. don't ever shove here... I flat or fold... AB spews post flop.. pre-flop he tends to be relatively solid.. shoving 30 bb with 77 is just retarded because the only way you are getting called is if you are killed.

[sabes99 0]

yea, bartley has shown a propensity in the past to be pretty wild, and any raise will commit you, so i would just shove

[sabes99 0]

no.. don't ever shove here... I flat or fold... AB spews post flop.. pre-flop he tends to be relatively solid.. shoving 30 bb with 77 is just retarded because the only way you are getting called is if you are killed.

well you can't possibly fold here getting 2.5-1 on your money with 8 outs pretty much guaranteedand we can't be killed because of those 8 outsi don't think you see the OESD

[WhatArunAA 0]

omg.. i thought this was all preflop.. lol.. ill update in a sec.

[WhatArunAA 0]

I raise to 2400 and then snap call a shove.

[simo_8ball 1]

lol - I was wondering why you were so vehemently against the shove.I don't hate making the smaller raise, but w/e. I figure if we're putting in over 1/2 our stack then we may as well shove. More for metagame reasons than anything else.

[GeneralGeeWhiz 0]

lol - I was wondering why you were so vehemently against the shove.I don't hate making the smaller raise, but w/e. I figure if we're putting in over 1/2 our stack then we may as well shove. More for metagame reasons than anything else.

qft. easy shove. you're a 70/30 favorite right now. shove and make a stand.Text results appended to pokerstove.txt 309,870 games 0.005 secs 61,974,000 games/secBoard: 5c 6d 8dDead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 71.186% 70.20% 00.98% 217542 3043.50 { 7d7h }Hand 1: 28.814% 27.83% 00.98% 86241 3043.50 { 33+, A9s+, K9s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A7o+, K9o+, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o }