custom36 5 Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 Seat 1: baldrick2 ($65.15 in chips) Seat 2: The.Swede ($27.45 in chips) Seat 3: Salamander10 ($25.75 in chips) Seat 4: prov1613 ($3 in chips) Seat 5: kman36 [9C,9S] ($11.15 in chips) Seat 6: LuckyDave ($16.40 in chips) Seat 7: edgymatt69 ($5.05 in chips) Seat 8: smiley zz ($4.60 in chips) Seat 9: Kowboyz ($7.40 in chips) Seat 10: uNRvrd ($13.65 in chips) ANTES/BLINDSThe.Swede posts blind ($0.15), Salamander10 posts blind ($0.25).PRE-FLOPprov1613 calls $0.25, kman36 bets $0.50, LuckyDave calls $0.50, edgymatt69 folds, smiley zz folds, Kowboyz calls $0.50, uNRvrd folds, baldrick2 calls $0.50, The.Swede calls $0.35, Salamander10 calls $0.25, prov1613 calls $0.25.Yeah, nothing unusual hereFLOP [board cards 8S,2H,4C ]The.Swede checks, Salamander10 checks, prov1613 checks, kman36 bets $0.25, LuckyDave bets $0.50, Kowboyz folds, baldrick2 folds, The.Swede folds, Salamander10 calls $0.50, prov1613 folds, kman36 calls $0.25.I'm thinking A8 or K8 or something similar for the raiserTURN [board cards 8S,2H,4C,4S ]Salamander10 checks, kman36 bets $0.50, LuckyDave bets $1, Salamander10 folds, kman36 calls $0.50.Another raise? I'm a bit worried of an overpair. Time to check/call.RIVER [board cards 8S,2H,4C,4S,10H ]kman36 checks, LuckyDave bets $0.50, kman36 calls $0.50.SHOWDOWNLuckyDave shows [ 4H,8H ]kman36 mucks cards [ 9C,9S ]LuckyDave wins $7.60. 4-8? 4-8?!?!? :shock: :evil:It's been like this for the last week. *sigh* Link to post Share on other sites
Swift_Psycho 1 Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 They were sooooted, duh.Rough beat. Link to post Share on other sites
Rocketwadster 0 Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 I'm not sure this is really a bad beat, as you played it totally different than I would have (not to say that my play would have been correct though, just a different way to play that would have hopefully eliminated the bad beat more times than not), as simply having the best hand pre-flop doesn't automatically constitute a bad beat. 8 players saw the flop, but you were the only raiser. Unless someone was slowplaying a higher pair than you, you have to consider your nines as good right now. After the flop, you bet, got raised, and then just called. You did nothing to define your hand as being able to beat what the board was currently showing unless someone already had two pair or trips. I think you must re-raise there, to give you an idea of where you sit. More times than not, I believe you will win the hand right there, and if not, you have helped build a pot that you would win later in the hand. In this particular case, you would have been re-raised or smooth-called. If he re-raised, you can fold right there (saving you a small bet), or call one more small bet to see if you improve (as you will most likely have to) on the turn. If he smooth-called, you get the turn card for free anyhow to hopefully improve, and if you don't, you check it down. With the turn card pairing the board in this case, you are done with the hand and fold to their bet, saving you a big bet. :wink: Link to post Share on other sites
otnemem 0 Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 It must be said: you're playing .25-.50. Link to post Share on other sites
dms26 3 Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 It must be said: you're playing .25-.50.You can see the same plays at 30/60 Link to post Share on other sites
Scanner313 0 Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 LuckyDave wins $7.60. 4-8? 4-8?!?!? :shock: :evil:It's been like this for the last week. *sigh*You sure that wasn't Gus Hansen you were playing against? Link to post Share on other sites
jokie009 0 Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 4-8? 4-8?!?!? :shock: :evil:here in Fort Wayne it is ok to bluff anyone not from the Fort w/4-8.... Link to post Share on other sites
Koroshiya 0 Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 A drunk monkey can do as well as any sober human at a slot machine, but a drunk monkey isn't going to do very well at a video poker machine. Now, there are a lot of drunk moneys at Hold 'Em tables these days.We all know there is an element of luck in poker, but the outcomes are greatly influenced by choices the player makes. There are better and worse choices to be made based on a variety of variables. The better one is at evaluating those variables (like tells, odds, player style, position, etc) the more positive outcomes will result. Not every time, but more often over a span of time. This is a game where you can do everything right and still loose to a 2-out draw, but good judgment and emotional control tip the "luck" in your favor over time.This morning at Paradise Poker some guy got beat in a show down where the winner was playing a some bad hand with bottom pair and made trips at the river. Given the bets ahead of him he should have folded earlier, but he didn't and he got very lucky. Mike Caro says in DB's Super System 2 that you should compliment such wins and encourage the fish to try that again and again. The loser in that showdown made a fool of himself and went on tilt, when he should have simply seen that play as a sure sign of profits to come.Koroshiya. :-) Link to post Share on other sites
Koroshiya 0 Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 An excellent commentary by John Vorhaus countering suspicions that on-line poker is fixed or rigged in some way.http://www.pokerhelper.com/forums/strategy-15.phpK Link to post Share on other sites
custom36 5 Posted April 29, 2005 Author Share Posted April 29, 2005 I don't believe it's rigged you blowhard. As I said, he got lucky. He's a moron. It was a bad week. Link to post Share on other sites
tdogg 0 Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Hey man this is my reckoning:My apologies for even wasting my time writing about a .25 c limit poker bad beat that lost you $2.50 My bad of course, but really who gives a shit? Try a higher limit Link to post Share on other sites
otnemem 0 Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 You were holding 9,9 and you didn't raise more than .25 ? One thing I've learnt is when your holding a fairly decent hand in a .25 game is to raise substantially, say to at least 1 - 1.50.One thing you haven't learned is limit poker. Link to post Share on other sites
Swift_Psycho 1 Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 You were holding 9,9 and you didn't raise more than .25 ? One thing I've learnt is when your holding a fairly decent hand in a .25 game is to raise substantially, say to at least 1 - 1.50.One thing you haven't learned is limit poker.Indeed. Link to post Share on other sites
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