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[KDawgCometh]

today was a real good day. Maybe if my head was more into the play then I would've done better, oh well. Got in a little over 500 hands so it was a light day, but the upside of varience can be real fun so here we go:Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is CO with [Td], [Kd]. UTG calls, 5 folds, UTG calls.late position riase with K10s, yup I want this pot shorthanded so I raise it upFlop: (5.33 SB) [9d], [6d], [2c] (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.flush draw and two overs, coolTurn: (3.66 BB) [7c] (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.I need this guy to fold, or acutally hit a pair to win thisRiver: (5.66 BB) [2d] (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.nice got what I wanted, so what was he calling me down withFinal Pot: 7.66 BBResults in white below: UTG has Js Ac (one pair, twos). Hero has Td Kd (flush, king high). Outcome: Hero wins 7.66 BB. A high, okay, whatever-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP3 with [Ah], [Qd]. 4 folds, MP2 calls.Flop: (7 SB) [4d], [7c], [2d] (3 players)SB checks, MP2 bets, SB folds, MP2 calls.raise to get a free card hereTurn: (5.50 BB) [Qc] (2 players)MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls.cool, I hit it, just gotta hope that no diamond fallsRiver: (7.50 BB) [6h] (2 players)MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls.Final Pot: 9.50 BBResults in white below: MP2 has 7d Jd (one pair, sevens). Hero has Ah Qd (one pair, queens). Outcome: Hero wins 9.50 BB. sweet. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------this hand was played right out of sshe, so if you disagree, complain to sklanskyParty Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is CO with [6c], [Qc]. 1 fold, BB checks.getting a good price I limp hereFlop: (6.33 SB) [7c], [5h], [9c] (6 players)BB bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero calls, Button calls.okay time to do some splainin'. I have a flush draw, gut shot, and an overcard that might be able to win the pot for me. with all of that working in concert along with the coldcaller of the raise the threebet works. but I certainly don't like the cap, so who knows, this table is uberloose and they could very well just be overplaying top pairTurn: (12.16 BB) [Qd] (4 players)BB bets, Hero calls.hit my pair, but his threebet tells me I need an eight or a club to win this puppyRiver: (18.16 BB) [8d] (2 players)BB bets, BB calls.this pot is way too big for me not to cap itFinal Pot: 26.16 BBResults in white below: BB has 6h 8s (straight, nine high). Hero has 6c Qc (straight, nine high). Outcome: Hero wins 13.08 BB. BB wins 13.08 BB. oh well its a chop, but i still profited from it. I think this one is gonna get some discussion------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------this one is a blind steal special. I normally am not this loose on blind steals but I was watching the 2+2 private table and decided to aggro it up. this hand just speaks for itselfParty Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is Button with [2h], [Jh]. 6 folds, SB calls, BB calls.Flop: (6 SB) [2s], [Th], [Jc] (4 players)SB checks, BB bets, SB folds, BB calls.Turn: (5 BB) [7s] (3 players)BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.River: (7 BB) [5c] (3 players)BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.Final Pot: 9 BBResults in white below: BB has Qs Kc (high card, king). MP2 doesn't show. Hero has 2h Jh (two pair, jacks and twos). Outcome: Hero wins 9 BB. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------this was literally my first hand at this table. Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is CO with [Jh], [Jd]. UTG+1 posts a blind of $3. Hero posts a blind of $3. UTG raises, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls. easy threebet. I believe in 3betting JJ anytime anywhere, maybe even capping if the situation warrentsFlop: (14.33 SB) [3c], [Td], [4c] (4 players)UTG bets, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.Turn: (11.16 BB) [8d] (4 players)UTG bets, Hero calls, UTG calls.he's betting into me again on a stop-n-go so I'm gonna call down with my overpair. I hope I'm goodRiver: (14.50 BB) [Qc] (4 players)UTG bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 16.50 BBMain Pot: 16.50 BB, between UTG, MP1, MP2 and Hero.Results in white below: UTG has Th Jc (one pair, tens). MP1 has 6d Ad (high card, ace). MP2 has 6c 9h (high card, queen). Hero has Jh Jd (one pair, jacks). Outcome: Hero wins 16.50 BB. lol. well I just added a new buddy to my list. donk riases utg with j10o, gotta love those guys. thanks little buddy---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is BB with [Qs], [Ts]. UTG calls, 2 folds, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.I should've raised here. why you ask. well we have five in right now so a raise can work so that if I hit on the flop I'll be able to tie people to the hand while raking in the $$$. This is a concept I just learned from reading a post the other day. I've done this in the button or CO before, but had never considered it here, now I will consider itFlop: (5 SB) [3s], [2d], [Js] (5 players)SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, MP2 folds, Button folds, SB calls, Hero calls.I should've credTurn: (4 BB) [9h] (3 players)SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, SB folds, Hero callsor here too.River: (6 BB) [Ad] (2 players)Hero checks, UTG checks.Final Pot: 6 BBMain Pot: 6 BB, between Hero and UTG.oh wellResults in white below: Hero has Qs Ts (high card, ace). UTG has 7s 7c (one pair, sevens). Outcome: UTG wins 6 BB. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------that's all for today. I had a good one.starting BR- 2,837.07ending BR- 3,168.32~500 hands

[Vade]

KDawgCometh said:

this hand was played right out of sshe, so if you disagree, complain to sklanskyParty Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is CO with [6c], [Qc].1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, Button calls, 1 fold, BB checks.getting a good price I limp hereFlop: (6.33 SB) [7c], [5h], [9c] (6 players)BB bets, UTG+1 raises, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, Hero 3-bets, Button calls, BB caps, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero calls, Button calls.okay time to do some splainin'. I have a flush draw, gut shot, and an overcard that might be able to win the pot for me. with all of that working in concert along with the coldcaller of the raise the threebet works. but I certainly don't like the cap, so who knows, this table is uberloose and they could very well just be overplaying top pairTurn: (12.16 BB) [Qd] (4 players)BB bets, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises, Button folds, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.hit my pair, but his threebet tells me I need an eight or a club to win this puppyRiver: (18.16 BB) [8d] (2 players)BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls.this pot is way too big for me not to cap itFinal Pot: 26.16 BBResults in white below:BB has 6h 8s (straight, nine high).Hero has 6c Qc (straight, nine high).Outcome: Hero wins 13.08 BB. BB wins 13.08 BB.

I guarantee that put your opponent on Tilt, AND he wants to kick your ass :PNh, oh, and you'd better NOT be complaining too loudly about this split here

[Absolute]

[quote=KDawgCometh]Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) [url="http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi"]converter[/url]Preflop: Hero is CO with [Td], [Kd]. UTG calls, 5 folds, UTG calls.late position riase with K10s, yup I want this pot shorthanded so I raise it upFlop: (5.33 SB) [9d], [6d], [2c] (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.flush draw and two overs, coolTurn: (3.66 BB) [7c] (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.I need this guy to fold, or acutally hit a pair to win thisRiver: (5.66 BB) [2d] (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.nice got what I wanted, so what was he calling me down withFinal Pot: 7.66 BBResults in white below: UTG has Js Ac (one pair, twos). Hero has Td Kd (flush, king high). Outcome: Hero wins 7.66 BB. A high, okay, whatever[/quote]At your current rate, I have a feeling in three more months you will be raising 79s from the CO. This is pretty loose PF. But I haven't played 3/6. who knows.[quote]Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) [url="http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi"]converter[/url]Preflop: Hero is MP3 with [Ah], [Qd]. 4 folds, MP2 calls.Flop: (7 SB) [4d], [7c], [2d] (3 players)SB checks, MP2 bets, SB folds, MP2 calls.raise to get a free card hereTurn: (5.50 BB) [Qc] (2 players)MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls.cool, I hit it, just gotta hope that no diamond fallsRiver: (7.50 BB) [6h] (2 players)MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls.Final Pot: 9.50 BBResults in white below: MP2 has 7d Jd (one pair, sevens). Hero has Ah Qd (one pair, queens). Outcome: Hero wins 9.50 BB. Pot is too small to make that raise on the flop. I would fold. Seriously. But I am probably wound too tight.[quote]Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) [url="http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi"]converter[/url]Preflop: Hero is CO with [6c], [Qc]. 1 fold, BB checks.getting a good price I limp hereFlop: (6.33 SB) [7c], [5h], [9c] (6 players)BB bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero calls, Button calls.okay time to do some splainin'. I have a flush draw, gut shot, and an overcard that might be able to win the pot for me. with all of that working in concert along with the coldcaller of the raise the threebet works. but I certainly don't like the cap, so who knows, this table is uberloose and they could very well just be overplaying top pairTurn: (12.16 BB) [Qd] (4 players)BB bets, Hero calls.hit my pair, but his threebet tells me I need an eight or a club to win this puppyRiver: (18.16 BB) [8d] (2 players)BB bets, BB calls.this pot is way too big for me not to cap itFinal Pot: 26.16 BBResults in white below: BB has 6h 8s (straight, nine high). Hero has 6c Qc (straight, nine high). Outcome: Hero wins 13.08 BB. BB wins 13.08 BB. oh well its a chop, but i still profited from it. I think this one is gonna get some discussion[/quote]You are absolutely insane and lucky.[quote]Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) [url="http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi"]converter[/url]Preflop: Hero is Button with [2h], [Jh]. 6 folds, SB calls, BB calls.Flop: (6 SB) [2s], [Th], [Jc] (4 players)SB checks, BB bets, SB folds, BB calls.Turn: (5 BB) [7s] (3 players)BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.River: (7 BB) [5c] (3 players)BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.Final Pot: 9 BBResults in white below: BB has Qs Kc (high card, king). MP2 doesn't show. Hero has 2h Jh (two pair, jacks and twos). Outcome: Hero wins 9 BB. well played.[quote]Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) [url="http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi"]converter[/url]Preflop: Hero is BB with [Qs], [Ts]. UTG calls, 2 folds, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.I should've raised here. why you ask. well we have five in right now so a raise can work so that if I hit on the flop I'll be able to tie people to the hand while raking in the $$$. This is a concept I just learned from reading a post the other day. I've done this in the button or CO before, but had never considered it here, now I will consider itFlop: (5 SB) [3s], [2d], [Js] (5 players)SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, MP2 folds, Button folds, SB calls, Hero calls.I should've credTurn: (4 BB) [9h] (3 players)SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, SB folds, Hero callsor here too.River: (6 BB) [Ad] (2 players)Hero checks, UTG checks.Final Pot: 6 BBMain Pot: 6 BB, between Hero and UTG.oh wellResults in white below: Hero has Qs Ts (high card, ace). UTG has 7s 7c (one pair, sevens). Outcome: UTG wins 6 BB. Funny how I argue on every other hand how crazy aggressive you are, then the one hand I think you should be aggressive you aren't. Raise PF.C/R the flop. (I realize you noted both things)i like calling the turn.

[wrto4556]

[quote=Absolute][quote=KDawgCometh]Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) [url="http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi"]converter[/url]Preflop: Hero is CO with [Td], [Kd]. UTG calls, 5 folds, UTG calls.late position riase with K10s, yup I want this pot shorthanded so I raise it upFlop: (5.33 SB) [9d], [6d], [2c] (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.flush draw and two overs, coolTurn: (3.66 BB) [7c] (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.I need this guy to fold, or acutally hit a pair to win thisRiver: (5.66 BB) [2d] (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.nice got what I wanted, so what was he calling me down withFinal Pot: 7.66 BBResults in white below: UTG has Js Ac (one pair, twos). Hero has Td Kd (flush, king high). Outcome: Hero wins 7.66 BB. A high, okay, whatever[/quote]At your current rate, I have a feeling in three more months you will be raising 79s from the CO. This is pretty loose PF. But I haven't played 3/6. who knows.[/quote]This preflop raise is standard.[quote][quote]Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) [url="http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi"]converter[/url]Preflop: Hero is MP3 with [Ah], [Qd]. 4 folds, MP2 calls.Flop: (7 SB) [4d], [7c], [2d] (3 players)SB checks, MP2 bets, SB folds, MP2 calls.raise to get a free card hereTurn: (5.50 BB) [Qc] (2 players)MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls.cool, I hit it, just gotta hope that no diamond fallsRiver: (7.50 BB) [6h] (2 players)MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls.Final Pot: 9.50 BBResults in white below: MP2 has 7d Jd (one pair, sevens). Hero has Ah Qd (one pair, queens). Outcome: Hero wins 9.50 BB. Pot is too small to make that raise on the flop. I would fold. Seriously. But I am probably wound too tight.[/quote]You are wound way too tight. This pot is actually big. however, I don't like raising. You're not getting the free card enough. I call.[quote][quote]Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) [url="http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi"]converter[/url]Preflop: Hero is CO with [6c], [Qc]. 1 fold, BB checks.getting a good price I limp hereFlop: (6.33 SB) [7c], [5h], [9c] (6 players)BB bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero calls, Button calls.okay time to do some splainin'. I have a flush draw, gut shot, and an overcard that might be able to win the pot for me. with all of that working in concert along with the coldcaller of the raise the threebet works. but I certainly don't like the cap, so who knows, this table is uberloose and they could very well just be overplaying top pairTurn: (12.16 BB) [Qd] (4 players)BB bets, Hero calls.hit my pair, but his threebet tells me I need an eight or a club to win this puppyRiver: (18.16 BB) [8d] (2 players)BB bets, BB calls.this pot is way too big for me not to cap itFinal Pot: 26.16 BBResults in white below: BB has 6h 8s (straight, nine high). Hero has 6c Qc (straight, nine high). Outcome: Hero wins 13.08 BB. BB wins 13.08 BB. oh well its a chop, but i still profited from it. I think this one is gonna get some discussion[/quote]You are absolutely insane and lucky.[/quote]He played this perfect. Except for the limp preflop. Muck that shit, Keith. K7s would be goot, but I don't like this.[quote][quote]Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) [url="http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi"]converter[/url]Preflop: Hero is Button with [2h], [Jh]. 6 folds, SB calls, BB calls.Flop: (6 SB) [2s], [Th], [Jc] (4 players)SB checks, BB bets, SB folds, BB calls.Turn: (5 BB) [7s] (3 players)BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.River: (7 BB) [5c] (3 players)BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.Final Pot: 9 BBResults in white below: BB has Qs Kc (high card, king). MP2 doesn't show. Hero has 2h Jh (two pair, jacks and twos). Outcome: Hero wins 9 BB. well played.[/quote]One thing we agree on.[quote][quote]Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) [url="http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi"]converter[/url]Preflop: Hero is BB with [Qs], [Ts]. UTG calls, 2 folds, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.I should've raised here. why you ask. well we have five in right now so a raise can work so that if I hit on the flop I'll be able to tie people to the hand while raking in the $$$. This is a concept I just learned from reading a post the other day. I've done this in the button or CO before, but had never considered it here, now I will consider itFlop: (5 SB) [3s], [2d], [Js] (5 players)SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, MP2 folds, Button folds, SB calls, Hero calls.I should've credTurn: (4 BB) [9h] (3 players)SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, SB folds, Hero callsor here too.River: (6 BB) [Ad] (2 players)Hero checks, UTG checks.Final Pot: 6 BBMain Pot: 6 BB, between Hero and UTG.oh wellResults in white below: Hero has Qs Ts (high card, ace). UTG has 7s 7c (one pair, sevens). Outcome: UTG wins 6 BB. Funny how I argue on every other hand how crazy aggressive you are, then the one hand I think you should be aggressive you aren't. Raise PF.C/R the flop. (I realize you noted both things)i like calling the turn.[/quote]Why raise preflop OOP with Q-high? That sounds retarded.

[KDawgCometh]

[quote=Absolute][quote=KDawgCometh]Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) [url="http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi"]converter[/url]Preflop: Hero is CO with [Td], [Kd]. UTG calls, 5 folds, UTG calls.late position riase with K10s, yup I want this pot shorthanded so I raise it upFlop: (5.33 SB) [9d], [6d], [2c] (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.flush draw and two overs, coolTurn: (3.66 BB) [7c] (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.I need this guy to fold, or acutally hit a pair to win thisRiver: (5.66 BB) [2d] (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.nice got what I wanted, so what was he calling me down withFinal Pot: 7.66 BBResults in white below: UTG has Js Ac (one pair, twos). Hero has Td Kd (flush, king high). Outcome: Hero wins 7.66 BB. A high, okay, whatever[/quote]At your current rate, I have a feeling in three more months you will be raising 79s from the CO. This is pretty loose PF. But I haven't played 3/6. who knows.who's to say that I haven't or won't. Its a solid raise as I want to take out the blinds and I have a hand that has both highcard value and flush value along with straight value. but I want this hand up shorthanded, plus by raising I get fold equity, which for some dumb reason the person decided to call me down with no pair no draw[quote]Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) [url="http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi"]converter[/url]Preflop: Hero is MP3 with [Ah], [Qd]. 4 folds, MP2 calls.Flop: (7 SB) [4d], [7c], [2d] (3 players)SB checks, MP2 bets, SB folds, MP2 calls.raise to get a free card hereTurn: (5.50 BB) [Qc] (2 players)MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls.cool, I hit it, just gotta hope that no diamond fallsRiver: (7.50 BB) [6h] (2 players)MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls.Final Pot: 9.50 BBResults in white below: MP2 has 7d Jd (one pair, sevens). Hero has Ah Qd (one pair, queens). Outcome: Hero wins 9.50 BB. Pot is too small to make that raise on the flop. I would fold. Seriously. But I am probably wound too tight.I'm getting 5-1 on my raise here, so for two cards to come, how does that not work since I have a backdoor flush and five non diamond outs with two cards to come. it works, you just have to factor in all draws to do ths successfully. Look at it like this: 5 clean pair outs and 1.5 backdoor flush outs meaning I'm getting 6.5 outs with two cards for 5-1 in small bets on my raise, plus I gain extra fold equity[quote]Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) [url="http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi"]converter[/url]Preflop: Hero is CO with [6c], [Qc]. 1 fold, BB checks.getting a good price I limp hereFlop: (6.33 SB) [7c], [5h], [9c] (6 players)BB bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero calls, Button calls.okay time to do some splainin'. I have a flush draw, gut shot, and an overcard that might be able to win the pot for me. with all of that working in concert along with the coldcaller of the raise the threebet works. but I certainly don't like the cap, so who knows, this table is uberloose and they could very well just be overplaying top pairTurn: (12.16 BB) [Qd] (4 players)BB bets, Hero calls.hit my pair, but his threebet tells me I need an eight or a club to win this puppyRiver: (18.16 BB) [8d] (2 players)BB bets, BB calls.this pot is way too big for me not to cap itFinal Pot: 26.16 BBResults in white below: BB has 6h 8s (straight, nine high). Hero has 6c Qc (straight, nine high). Outcome: Hero wins 13.08 BB. BB wins 13.08 BB. oh well its a chop, but i still profited from it. I think this one is gonna get some discussion[/quote]You are absolutely insane and lucky.luck had nothing to do with it. It came right out of SSHE. Its the cumulative effect of all draws here along with the coldcaller that makes this 3bet work, but liuck had nothing to do with it, but I've never had a problem being called insane[/quote]

[KDawgCometh]

[quote="wrto4556"][quote=Absolute][quote=KDawgCometh][quote]Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) [url="http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi"]converter[/url]Preflop: Hero is BB with [Qs], [Ts]. UTG calls, 2 folds, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.I should've raised here. why you ask. well we have five in right now so a raise can work so that if I hit on the flop I'll be able to tie people to the hand while raking in the $$$. This is a concept I just learned from reading a post the other day. I've done this in the button or CO before, but had never considered it here, now I will consider itFlop: (5 SB) [3s], [2d], [Js] (5 players)SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, MP2 folds, Button folds, SB calls, Hero calls.I should've credTurn: (4 BB) [9h] (3 players)SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, SB folds, Hero callsor here too.River: (6 BB) [Ad] (2 players)Hero checks, UTG checks.Final Pot: 6 BBMain Pot: 6 BB, between Hero and UTG.oh wellResults in white below: Hero has Qs Ts (high card, ace). UTG has 7s 7c (one pair, sevens). Outcome: UTG wins 6 BB. Funny how I argue on every other hand how crazy aggressive you are, then the one hand I think you should be aggressive you aren't. Raise PF.C/R the flop. (I realize you noted both things)i like calling the turn.[/quote]Why raise preflop OOP with Q-high? That sounds retarded.[/quote]its not. I got the idea from Nate tha great in the Gaybet thread or one of the KQ hands that have popped up in the past few days. He said something to the effect that by raising here with teh limpers If I hit big then I can tie them to the pot. I even posted this on double duece and basically all who replied said, raise em up

[wrto4556]

Thow me a bone. Nate tha great is a crazy mofo, but he's smart as hell, too. I want to read it.

[KDawgCometh]

the Q10s hand isn't crazy or Laggy at all. chris can post the link. It works as If I raise I cantie people to the hand. There are a lot of draws I can hit and there is some High card value since everyone limped one can assume that TPGK will hold up for the most part. THe Q6 hand, eh I made up for a loose PF call with excellent postflop play, aren't we allowed these hands every now and then

[Absolute]

New rule here at FCP.Instead of saying, "2 + 2 said it was true" or "2 + 2 would agree", explain why.i understand there are more educated theorists on their boards, but it really does n good for anyone here to say "2 + 2 said it was ok"

[KDawgCometh]

what're you refrencing in particular

[Absolute]

Oh I don't wanna play archivist and go digging up posts.It just seems a lot of times comments like "I guarantee you if I posted this on 2+2 they would all agree" come up. or "[insert name here] on 2+2 says its ok" so its the end of discussion.i dunno maybe ill find a few examples when i get a free minute

[KDawgCometh]

if you are refering to this post and the Q10s hand then just look to my post right below zra's post asking why raising there works, I explained it and also said that I got it from 2+2. don't get so wound up about it. I recomend that people should reg themselves at 2+2 as there are much more people on hand to give advice on hands. if you play at 1/2 or below go to the micros section, 2/4 to 6/12 is in the small stakes section(though 15/30 and 10/20 hands find their way there too)

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KDawgCometh said:

if you are refering to this post and the Q10s hand then just look to my post right below zra's post asking why raising there works, I explained it and also said that I got it from 2+2. don't get so wound up about it. I recomend that people should reg themselves at 2+2 as there are much more people on hand to give advice on hands. if you play at 1/2 or below go to the micros section, 2/4 to 6/12 is in the small stakes section(though 15/30 and 10/20 hands find their way there too)

oh i do frequent 2 + 2its probably the best place on the internet for poker strategyi was just suggesting we dont become a segway for their forums, and rather try to build a strong strategy base here.shrugsnow that i think about it more, you are probably right thoughmaybe im lazy and tired of going back and forth between here and there and trying to find posts that keep getting referencedmake sense?

[KDawgCometh]

I guess. Wrto and I do get into conversations through these posts sometimes about goings on over on 2+2 as we are both regulars on the small stakes boards. I have no problem at all trying to cultivate a strong strat section here, it just blows that 90% of the forum members are either afraid of commenting in this section, or don't know it exists. That's why I've moved my race posts here, but no one seems to want to comment or ask questions outside of you, chris, and zara. Its kinda frustrating with all of the work I put into it that it gets so few responses. I don't want to sound like a whining baby, but smash thing would get mad pages of responses, granted some were dumbass flames, but many would comment and/or ask questions of his play. I don't claim to play perfectly at all and would like many more people to ask questions or critique my hands. Just cause people don't play at 3/6 or 2/4 doesn't mean a point of view is invalid. I will answer and explain my position as best I can, or Wrto will, but for those of you who think he always hits it on the head, well ask your own questions and don't be afraid to make a dumb statement, chris has and will and he will learn. His asking questions and making comments that might be off base is what has gotten him to be a better player, its simple he isn't afraid of being wrong, and being told that he's wrong(can you hear me JFarrell). well my rant is done, but for those that are reading this rant please please please make comments on mine or chris' play and never be afraid to ask questions on why we did something in our race posts. we are all here to learn and there is no reason that you should look at Wrto or I as guru's, we're all people just playing a game we enjoy

[wrto4556]

KDawgCometh said:

I guess. Wrto and I do get into conversations through these posts sometimes about goings on over on 2+2 as we are both regulars on the small stakes boards. I have no problem at all trying to cultivate a strong strat section here, it just blows that 90% of the forum members are either afraid of commenting in this section, or don't know it exists. That's why I've moved my race posts here, but no one seems to want to comment or ask questions outside of you, chris, and zara. Its kinda frustrating with all of the work I put into it that it gets so few responses. I don't want to sound like a whining baby, but smash thing would get mad pages of responses, granted some were dumbass flames, but many would comment and/or ask questions of his play. I don't claim to play perfectly at all and would like many more people to ask questions or critique my hands. Just cause people don't play at 3/6 or 2/4 doesn't mean a point of view is invalid. I will answer and explain my position as best I can, or Wrto will, but for those of you who think he always hits it on the head, well ask your own questions and don't be afraid to make a dumb statement, chris has and will and he will learn. His asking questions and making comments that might be off base is what has gotten him to be a better player, its simple he isn't afraid of being wrong, and being told that he's wrong(can you hear me JFarrell). well my rant is done, but for those that are reading this rant please please please make comments on mine or chris' play and never be afraid to ask questions on why we did something in our race posts. we are all here to learn and there is no reason that you should look at Wrto or I as guru's, we're all people just playing a game we enjoy

amenIve made an ass of myself so many times it's not funny anymore.

[Emptyeye]

Heh. Ass. ;)As I understand in my non-2+2 educated way, raising the QT isn't that much different from raising, say, AJ--the purpose is more or less the same, that being to build the pot for when you hit hard. The hand is just more marginal, so you'll need to hit it a little harder than on the flop than you would with AJ.Oversimplifying it, I'm sure,but is this more or less correct?

[allinbluff35]

I read the thread but don't respond and this is my reason. If I have any questions about anything on these posts or something I just ask chris via MSN and he explains why whoever did what or commented on what and their reasons for it

[KDawgCometh]

exactly, that's why I want people to ask. they weren't afraid of asking smash, are chris and I that intimidating , doubt it. and that is not to say that I don't like the comments that everyone who already adds to the thread bring, I love em. Why do you all think I out in the Q6s hand, it certainly wasn't to be look at how aggressive I am. It was to stimulate discussion which kinda happened. I will always show a bad beat if one happened that day, as its fun to dwell on these things, but I will only show true bad beats. nothing like these idiots who whine about their 60/40 edge being beaten. and I'll ask questions of my play that I want people to try to answer. I say we should do our best to get more people that hang out in the general section to come over here and participate. Jayson or Daniel, if your reading this, give us a hand. there are a lot of good players that scroll this site but don't particiapate because they see some of the donks that only stay in general, and don't go to some of the other sections because the general stuff can be very lame or annoyying. Just look at all of the crap Kurt is taking over the J10 hand or his AQ hand, and its kinda like STFU people, he was there and we weren't. He had the balls to try to bluff David Oppenheim off of KK, I say props. I just want this section to grow and for people not to be afraid and feel that they do have a sya in things, but not to be afraid to be wrong. Those that don't like being told that they are wrong need not apply, IMO