DrZoidberg 0 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)MP (t2565)Button (t1385)SB (t2172)BB (t3590)Hero (t3788)Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q , Q . Hero raises to t600, 2 folds, SB raises to t2172, BB raises to t3590, Hero???My image is fairly aggressive, I had raised the last 2 hands and taken down blinds, so when the shorty shoved I was insta-calling, but the re-shovel by the big stack scares me, I have to think best case i'm looking to dodge aces and kings, and worst case I'm a huge dog to AA or KK. Link to post Share on other sites
throwemaway 0 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 5 handed I don't think I can fold here.. You basically guarantee yourself 1st if you win this pot and I'd have to think theres a good chance they are duplicating each others outs Link to post Share on other sites
sabes99 0 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 yuck...i really don't know, this is pretty close...i think i would probably call here since they are both short-stacked and could be moving with less of a hand than they would otherwise, but it sickens me to do so considering you will definitely see A-A or K-K from one of them a lot of the time here Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 instacall, AINECbut knowing OPs reputation Im gonna guess he lost this pot. Link to post Share on other sites
KoRnholio 2 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 they are both short-stacked and could be moving with less of a hand than they would otherwiseBB is 2nd in chips and SB still has an M of almost 10...BB surely has a big hand here, pushing over an UTG raise (by the chip leader) and the SB push, although often that "big hand" will be AK. Link to post Share on other sites
DrZoidberg 0 Posted July 23, 2007 Author Share Posted July 23, 2007 instacall, AINECbut knowing OPs reputation Im gonna guess he lost this pot.Lol, what reputation? Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Lol, what reputation?Don't mind Eddie, he's the forum clown.(not in a good way) Link to post Share on other sites
rogerwilco 0 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Insta-call!This is a beautiful spot in my opinion. SBs range is hard to pin down, he could be on a complete bluff or have a naked ace/lower pocket pair and BB could easily be isolating with a hand like 88+, AQ or something. If you just have to dodge aces and kings, then you are getting amazing odds to do so, but you could be in a much better position than that here. And if one of them has AA or KK it is a cooler, shrug it off and open a new STT.This is not deepstacked enough to pass with QQ here. Link to post Share on other sites
sabes99 0 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 BB is 2nd in chips and SB still has an M of almost 10...BB surely has a big hand here, pushing over an UTG raise (by the chip leader) and the SB push, although often that "big hand" will be AK.perhaps you're right about the BB being stronger than i think, but the SB doesn't have enough chips to be waiting for A-A and K-K in this spot every time Link to post Share on other sites
the_moil 0 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Insta-call!This is a beautiful spot in my opinion. SBs range is hard to pin down, he could be on a complete bluff or have a naked ace/lower pocket pair and BB could easily be isolating with a hand like 88+, AQ or something. If you just have to dodge aces and kings, then you are getting amazing odds to do so, but you could be in a much better position than that here. And if one of them has AA or KK it is a cooler, shrug it off and open a new STT.This is not deepstacked enough to pass with QQ here.+1 Link to post Share on other sites
AcesOnFire 0 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 +1Big stack has a big hand but not as big as yours. Call. Link to post Share on other sites
silkyjonson 1 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Big stack has a big hand but not as big as yours. Call.Your probably ahead most of the time here and with all the money in the pot and the fact that its 5 handed a call is profitable in the long run unless the BB is a super nit. I would probably strongly consider folding JJ in this spot barring reads mainly on the last shoveler and TT would be gone in a heartbeat but QQ is a call IMO Link to post Share on other sites
DrZoidberg 0 Posted July 24, 2007 Author Share Posted July 24, 2007 I wanted to call, but I felt like I could get my money in in a better spot, really I was playing a little scared, which isn't like me, it wouldn't have been that bad to get knocked out here. Oh well, ya'll were right, I had them both dominated.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)MP (t2565)Button (t1385)SB (t2172)BB (t3590)Hero (t3788)Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q , Q . Hero raises to t600, 2 folds, SB raises to t2172, BB raises to t3590, Hero folds.Flop: (t6362) T , 8 , 2 (2 players)Turn: (t6362) 3 (2 players)River: (t6362) Q (2 players)Final Pot: t4944Results in white below:BB has Jh Jc (one pair, jacks). SB has Ad Qs (one pair, queens). Outcome: SB wins t4944. Link to post Share on other sites
AcesOnFire 0 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 I wanted to call, but I felt like I could get my money in in a better spot, really I was playing a little scared, which isn't like me, it wouldn't have been that bad to get knocked out here. Oh well, ya'll were right, I had them both dominated.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)MP (t2565)Button (t1385)SB (t2172)BB (t3590)Hero (t3788)Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q , Q . Hero raises to t600, 2 folds, SB raises to t2172, BB raises to t3590, Hero folds.Flop: (t6362) T , 8 , 2 (2 players)Turn: (t6362) 3 (2 players)River: (t6362) Q (2 players)Final Pot: t4944Results in white below:BB has Jh Jc (one pair, jacks). SB has Ad Qs (one pair, queens). Outcome: SB wins t4944.Aha, I was correct.At worst I think one of them could of been holding AK. Link to post Share on other sites
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