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[kaisersoze12]

This is pot limit and I cannot find a good converter for FTP PLHE so I had to add my own edits.

Full Tilt 2/4 Pot Limit Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)

Seat 1: SALEEN2002 ($400)
Seat 2: lifetimeban ($405.90)
Seat 3: ROCCO39 ($399.30)
Seat 4: greghen ($74.70)
Seat 5: Hero ($569.40)
Seat 6: OPiuM57 ($440.50)
ROCCO39 posts the small blind of $2
greghen posts the big blind of $4

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A , K .
Hero raises $12, 2 folds, SB calls, 1 fold.

Flop: ($28) A , Q , 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $18, SB calls.

Turn: ($64) 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $35, SB calls.

River: ($134) 8 (2 players)
SB bets $67, Hero ????

[whiterice714]

gotta read on villain?


how's the pot $64 on the turn & after $70 goes into it it's $164 on teh river?


i think it's pretty clear you have an A... does he enjoy slow playing?

would he float the flop w/ J 10?

[trystero]

I pay it off but he's probably got aces up, the Full Tilt special

[Snamuh]

The SB in this hand has a 100 BB stack, something isn't adding up right.

[kaisersoze12]

The SB in this hand has a 100 BB stack, something isn't adding up right.

FlopTurnRiver doesn't support FTP PLHE so it read this as a LHE 4/8 game. I tried to manually adjust and messed it up. I used PT to replay the hand and fill in the blanks and there must be something wrong with the PT since it showed the SB all in with $67, but that clearly cannot be the case. You are correct. I adjusted the original post to have the correct info.

I have 54 hands on this guy. 60% VP$IP, but all 6 handed (still high, but again only 54 hands) - 2 AF. Not enough for a real read other than I saw him check raise the flop a number of times

[throwemaway]

I don't play any pot limit, but I have no idea how this isn't a call..I just can't see any other play here

[BuffDan]

That is such a weird card for the villain to come out betting with if this is a bluff as the only hand for villain to represent that hit was TJ. The other thing is there is not many draws on the flop except TJ, KT, and KJ, so it probably isn't a busted draw with a last ditch bluff either. That means its most likely either some 2 pair or better hand that was slowplaying and doesn't want to risk the river getting checked behind (or possibly one like A8 that just hit on the river) or a weaker ace that is trying to set the bet size on the river. I dunno, I would be more inclined to believe that it is a hand that has AK beat, but is it more than likely than 2-1? I probably end up calling but it feels like we are beat.

[dgostate8]

looks like you're beat to me. i can totally see A8 here if the guy has been loose.

[Lavitz]

Reads? If hes a solid player this is a fold.

[kaisersoze12]

I called on the end. Looking back on it, I had no business calling. Look at the options:

I can beat:
A-10. A-J, a bluff, or Ax suited in hearts.... - Way the guy played I figured he would check raise the first two options or lead at the flop. Ax suited hearts he would probably lead the turn.

K-10 hearts, Q-10 hearts, QJ hearts, JK hearts - Seems fairly unlikely, but possible. Busted draw picked up on turn and betting what he would call for the Q paired options. The heart/gutshot draw miss without a pair seems unlikely for that amount.

I cannot beat:
Set - Doubt it, would've check raised the turn at least.

A-Q, A-9 - Probably more action on the flop and turn with this.

A-8 - Likely with his play.

J-10 possible too. Although I would be surprised if he peeled one off on the flop with J10, or even on the turn. He had less than 3-1 odds on both streets.

So, like I said I called, and looking back I should have put him on A-8 at the very least. I think it is very marginal here, but thinking back I should've dropped the hand.

results below.












I was shocked to see him turn over J-10. I insta-called, but should've thought throught it a little more.

[whiterice714]

yeah, i figured something like that...

he had a gutter ball on the flop & got sticky for some donk reason.. it then became an OESD on the turn & we all know donks dont fold those, i mean, "all you need is an 8 or K!!!"


he did play it like he was drawing... or slow playing a monster... but if he had a monster i'd have figured he'd reraise you on the turn...


sorry to hear, hope you made notes that he'll call OOP w/ trash & get sticky w/ it...

[Zelphade]

i would probably have called also.. i didnt think he would have j10.. two pair or a set maybe but not that hand..

[kaisersoze12]

i would probably have called also.. i didnt think he would have j10.. two pair or a set maybe but not that hand..

A set is very unlikely though, unless of course he has a whacky set of 8s. Two pair is much more likely and that still beats me.

Let's say he checks the river. Do I still bet? I probably would've checked behind figurig he cannot call with anything that loses to me.

[DrawingDeadInDM]

Pot the flop, check behind on the turn, call a river bet.

That's my line.

[kaisersoze12]

Pot the flop, check behind on the turn, call a river bet.

That's my line.

You do that for No Limit, but PLHE also?.

[DrawingDeadInDM]

You do that for No Limit, but PLHE also?.

More in PLHE than I would in NLHE.