Actuary 3 Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 bad call preflop?c.r sweet?PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)MP ($22.50)CO ($25.60)Button ($41.85)Hero ($27)BB ($41.85)UTG ($18.40)Preflop: Hero is SB with 7, 8, 9, 5. UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO raises to $0.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50, UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50.Flop: ($3.75) 9, 6, J(5 players)Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, CO bets $3.6, Hero raises to $14.4( I stil need help counting outs quickly. Any tricks ? )I think I'll adapt a lag still once I lern how to play. now I have a donkey style. Link to post Share on other sites
sabes99 0 Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 i can't count outs in omaha without taking like an houri think with a number of people behind you i like calling better, with a lot of people left to act you could get the same amount of money in the pot either way, and possibly have more action to hit your draw Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 I'd like this a lot better if your draws were to the high end of the straight. There are a lot of cards that we need to count as "outs" that make higher straights possible as well. If you're gonna get it in with a wrap draw, make sure it's a good draw to the nuts. In this spot, I'd prefer a call or fold to a raise.This one's easy to count our outs. We have only TWO outs to the nuts, the two non 5's. The 2 7's, 8's and 3 T's may be good, but they're not to the nuts, so who knows. 2 nut outs - no thanks, I'll pass. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted July 15, 2007 Author Share Posted July 15, 2007 I think I need to group cards and not try to see all 7 at once, lol Link to post Share on other sites
BudBundy 0 Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Preflop i can go either way. Flop seems like a fold especially OOP. Hearts out there , T87x totally dominates you , there are 3 people behind who may be planning to go for a flop C/R as well.Yeah , fold. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted July 15, 2007 Author Share Posted July 15, 2007 in PLO it seems customary to list hands that crush us.I guess the monsters under the bed really do occur more in PLO'Im just not seeing it in the games I play. The range is too wide to always focus discussion the few hands that crush us...With the understanding that the range and possibiliteis of those monsters is much higher, than in HE, I know,If he were not the pfr I don't make this move.We need SS-PLO book, for these less than optimal players. I feel most advice I see outside of here is assuming much better opponents.I mean, I should be getting killed at this levelBut I'm not, yet. Link to post Share on other sites
navybuttons 16 Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 didn't read the replies, but i don't hate the preflop call. with all those limpers it's likely they'll all come along and hopefully we can flop a nut w/ redraws.on the flop i think there's too many people behind to make this play. especially if the whole table reads CO as a constant c-better (the only hands he should have here are 89TJ, 99xx and JJxx, or things really similiar to that. maybe AhXhAX is profitable to c-bet with). i could easily see someone behind us looking to c/r on the flop.i'm pretty sure the flop is a c/f. Link to post Share on other sites
BudBundy 0 Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 didn't read the replies,Lies. You obviously read my post Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Just posted this in a different thread, but I'll say it here. The existence of a flush draw would cause our equity to plummet. Flush draws are horrendous for a wrap to see. Link to post Share on other sites
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