Actuary 3 Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Villain is very active, I ve olny been theer maybe 20 handsPokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Hero ($25.50)UTG ($47.80)Button ($62.75)SB ($20.40)Preflop: Hero is BB with A, K, J, 6. 1 fold, Button raises to $0.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50.Flop: ($1.60) K, 2, 6(2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $0.75, Hero raises to $3, Button calls $2.25.Turn: ($7.60) 9(2 players)Hero bets $5.25, Button calls $5.25.River: ($18.10) Q(2 players)Hero bets $10.75....I feel so vulnerable... I hadn't noticed him slow playing,...How much to bet? all streets.thanks Link to post Share on other sites
sabes99 0 Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 i think i just lead out and pot the flop, and hope he has an overpair...if you're gonna c/r that's ok, but then you should probably just pot itbet the pot on the turn, you leave extra money out there when you have the best hand and charge draws moreriver bet is fine, folding to a raise correct? Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 I love the flop checkraise, but please just pot it (to $3.85 I think it would it be). It's simpler, and it's pretty standard.Pot the turn.I'm open to discussion on these points.Don't bet the river. No worse hand will ever call you. Ever. Check and see what he does. The only draw on the flop missed (345), but your hand is pretty weak at this point. I might c/c, I might c/f. I don't know yet. LAGs are tough to play against, especially OOP. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted July 13, 2007 Author Share Posted July 13, 2007 No worse hand will ever call you. Ever.*marking the tape* Link to post Share on other sites
bassplayer45459 0 Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 This situation comes up alot. Pot the flop, i always pot the flop in this situation with the two-pair you have, or top two pair. With the turn, i think the hands you both have never improved, either he has you beat with top two pair, or he has an over pair. It is very possible a scared pocket aces are calling here, but the river. I check and go into the tank, tough decision. Everything else you did was fine Link to post Share on other sites
sabes99 0 Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Don't bet the river. No worse hand will ever call you. Ever. Check and see what he does. The only draw on the flop missed (345), but your hand is pretty weak at this point. I might c/c, I might c/f. I don't know yet. LAGs are tough to play against, especially OOP.i don't know, i think we might get called by some random smaller two pair...but 99% of the time i guess you're right, c/c or c/f is probably the best play Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 *marking the tape*Oops. Link to post Share on other sites
BudBundy 0 Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 river bet is fine, folding to a raise correct?We have 6$ left on river , we can't fold to anything. I don't really like river bet. Are we bluffing? Are we value-betting?If check/callers are willing to call a 6$ bet on river , Maybe we can launch a donkish move here like betting 5.75$. He is raising with JT. He is probably calling with Aces. Downside is he is calling with KQ and probably K9. But if we check he will probably bet more than 6$ and we will be tempted to call. So if we are willing to call a 6$ bet on river , why don't we bet it ourselves? We may get a call from a worse hand (aces) , we may get a fold from a better hand (K9). I am not sure this is a good move tho , haven't thought much about it.Discuss? Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 We may get a call from a worse hand (aces) , we may get a fold from a better hand (K9)The definition of a value bluff. You have no idea what villain has, you don't know why you're betting, you just bet for the sake of it.I'm not sure what the best line is. Link to post Share on other sites
BudBundy 0 Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 I'm not sure what the best line is.That leaves us only one option ;Lesbian Porn Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted July 13, 2007 Author Share Posted July 13, 2007 he called down with AA and no oesd anywhere Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 Don't bet the river. No worse hand will ever call you. Ever. he called down with AA and no oesd anywhere Oops.I was wrong, but I maintain that you were incredibly lucky. Brain-damaged plays appear at random times. Link to post Share on other sites
sabes99 0 Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 We have 6$ left on river , we can't fold to anything.i need to read these hands closer, i continue to look like an idiotif so, then forget everything i said about betting and c/cand yes, you were probably pretty lucky to have the best hand Link to post Share on other sites
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