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#1 No_Neck

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 02:46 PM

Poker StarsNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.258 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $20.85UTG+1: $90.15MP1: $8.40Hero: $25CO: $21.95Button: $9.65SB: $15.90BB: $23.40Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is MP2 with A :) 9 :D UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero (poster) checks, 2 folds, SB calls, BB (poster) checks.Flop: 6 :club: 9 :D 8 :D ($1, 4 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.75, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.Turn: 3 :) ($3.25, 3 players)SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $2, SB calls, UTG calls.River: 3 :D ($9.25, 3 players)SB checks, UTG bets $5.25, Hero ????Hero posts so no reads.

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 03:29 PM

you only have a bluff-catcher since there are no made hands less than TPTK that would play the river this way. (unless UTG is turning such a hand into a bluff on purpose) i fold this without a read that one of the following has a good chance of being true:1) UTG is willing to bluff into two players on the river with his busted draw2) UTG is smart enough to figure out that SB's draw busted as well, thus the extra player in the hand is really irrelevant3) SB is dumb enough to c/c to the river in this pot with 9x (excusing the 9x with draws), meaning an overcall is likely and makes the odds to call good enough

#3 Acid_Knight

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 05:51 AM

If he had you beat on the flop or turn with 98 or 96, I think he'd have raised to protect his hand. If he flopped a set, the same logic applies IMO. If he flopped a straight, he might have slowplayed the flop, but I can't see the turn slowplay since there's another caller in there.The one hand I'm really worried about is 3Xdd since it makes the most sense of any hand that plays this way. I'm getting 3-1 on the call, so I'm probably gonna go ahead and make it, but I'm turning into a bigger calling station each day.

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 06:01 AM

I suck at these situations, so I fold the A9o preflop. But here we are, not sure if we need to protect against a draw or if we're already behind. Almost anything that comes on the turn could potentially beat us. I think the turn bet might have been too small.Against even moderately tricky opponents I think we should pay off the river bet.
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Posted 11 July 2007 - 06:05 AM

As AK says, most worried about 3Xdd, but I probably call. I certainly wouldn't say folding is a mistake though.

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 06:06 AM

View PostDavid_Nicoson, on Wednesday, July 11th, 2007, 3:01 PM, said:

I suck at these situations, so I fold the A9o preflop.
We posted in MP2. This is our first hand at the table.

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 06:09 AM

View Postsimo_8ball, on Wednesday, July 11th, 2007, 10:06 AM, said:

We posted in MP2. This is our first hand at the table.
I see. Raise then? I hate this hand in a limped pot.
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Posted 11 July 2007 - 06:24 AM

View PostDavid_Nicoson, on Wednesday, July 11th, 2007, 7:09 AM, said:

I see. Raise then? I hate this hand in a limped pot.
I like it less in a raised pot where we know nothing about our opponents.

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 06:40 AM

View PostAcid_Knight, on Wednesday, July 11th, 2007, 10:24 AM, said:

I like it less in a raised pot where we know nothing about our opponents.
Then don't post when we're going to get A9o. Problem solved.
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Posted 11 July 2007 - 06:43 AM

View PostNo_Neck, on Tuesday, July 10th, 2007, 2:46 PM, said:

Poker StarsNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.258 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $20.85UTG+1: $90.15MP1: $8.40Hero: $25CO: $21.95Button: $9.65SB: $15.90BB: $23.40Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is MP2 with A :) 9 :D UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero (poster) checks, 2 folds, SB calls, BB (poster) checks.Flop: 6 :club: 9 :D 8 :D ($1, 4 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.75, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.Turn: 3 :) ($3.25, 3 players)SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $2, SB calls, UTG calls.River: 3 :D ($9.25, 3 players)SB checks, UTG bets $5.25, Hero ????Hero posts so no reads.
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