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#1 Dabs45

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Posted 07 July 2007 - 07:32 PM

not a big hand i am just curious. also did i play it wrong??

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP3 ($78.25)
CO ($30.15)
Button ($31.50)
SB ($19.50)
BB ($12.35)
UTG ($45)
Hero ($19.50)
MP1 ($7.50)
MP2 ($51.05)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K, A.
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 3 folds, CO calls $2, 1 fold, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($8) Q, 5, 7 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($8) A (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.5, CO folds, SB folds, BB calls $1.50.

River: ($11) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero???
Dealer: Phil Ivey wins the pot ($9,599.50)
Dealer: Phil Ivey wins the pot ($2,399.50)
Dealer: Hand #2830532600

perkyshmerky: all in flip?
perkyshmerky: ??
perkyshmerky: all in flip?
perkyshmerky: wtf

Dealer: perkyshmerky shows [9c Jh]
Dealer: Phil Ivey shows [Jd Kd]
Dealer: perkyshmerky shows two pair, Nines and
Fives
Dealer: Phil Ivey shows two pair, Kings and Fives
Dealer: Phil Ivey wins the pot ($19,596) with two pair,
Kings and Fives

perkyshmerky: wtf
Phil Ivey: u gonna ante up or keep moaning
Phil Ivey: cause i am going to sleep

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Posted 07 July 2007 - 07:39 PM

with no reads, i insta call this and expect him to show up with a missed draw.

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Posted 07 July 2007 - 07:40 PM

Why bet so small on the turn? I'd bet more like 6 on the turn, it will give you a better idea of what you're up against if you get called.

I'd probably call the river but isap
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Posted 07 July 2007 - 07:51 PM

A few questions come to mind:

Why are you only sitting with $19.50?

Why did you bet so small on the turn?

Why would you hesitate to call the river one bit?

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Posted 07 July 2007 - 07:56 PM

ty for the replies, sounds like i instacall
Dealer: Phil Ivey wins the pot ($9,599.50)
Dealer: Phil Ivey wins the pot ($2,399.50)
Dealer: Hand #2830532600

perkyshmerky: all in flip?
perkyshmerky: ??
perkyshmerky: all in flip?
perkyshmerky: wtf

Dealer: perkyshmerky shows [9c Jh]
Dealer: Phil Ivey shows [Jd Kd]
Dealer: perkyshmerky shows two pair, Nines and
Fives
Dealer: Phil Ivey shows two pair, Kings and Fives
Dealer: Phil Ivey wins the pot ($19,596) with two pair,
Kings and Fives

perkyshmerky: wtf
Phil Ivey: u gonna ante up or keep moaning
Phil Ivey: cause i am going to sleep

#6 loosekanen

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Posted 07 July 2007 - 09:42 PM

with your stack i'd be pushing, not calling. it looks desperate enough to get a call from someone holding 68 which is definitely a possibility here. you need more chips man. at LEAST 50bbs.

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Posted 07 July 2007 - 11:20 PM

QUOTE (loosekanen @ Saturday, July 7th, 2007, 9:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
with your stack i'd be pushing, not calling. it looks desperate enough to get a call from someone holding 68 which is definitely a possibility here. you need more chips man. at LEAST 50bbs.


Buying in short isn't nessecarily a bad thing. There's advantages to it, but I wont get too much into that.
As played you gotta at least call, making the thin value raise/push is also an option, but I'd most likely just call here if you dont know where your at. I'd assume that he's either got you beat or has a busted draw so calling >> value raise without reads IMO.

Bet more on the turn.

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Posted 07 July 2007 - 11:43 PM

QUOTE (Dabs45 @ Sunday, July 8th, 2007, 5:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
not a big hand i am just curious. also did i play it wrong??

River: ($11) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero???


With no info on the opponent you have no chioce but to call. However, at these stakes, some players can call almost any amount with anything resembling any kind of hand, but when THEY make a strong bet they will have one pair (no matter how pretty) beat 100% of the time.

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 12:09 AM

QUOTE (sennin @ Saturday, July 7th, 2007, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why bet so small on the turn? I'd bet more like 6 on the turn, it will give you a better idea of what you're up against if you get called.

I'd probably call the river but isap

Yes, raise much more on the turn and call the river. I'm not really a fan of raising on the river because you have no idea where you're at as nobody has defined their hand. The only point of raising here is if you think you can get called by a worse hand. But you have no way to narrow his range down so it's kind of a shot in the dark.
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Posted 08 July 2007 - 10:22 AM

QUOTE (Dabs45 @ Saturday, July 7th, 2007, 7:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
not a big hand i am just curious. also did i play it wrong??

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP3 ($78.25)
CO ($30.15)
Button ($31.50)
SB ($19.50)
BB ($12.35)
UTG ($45)
Hero ($19.50)
MP1 ($7.50)
MP2 ($51.05)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K, A.
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 3 folds, CO calls $2, 1 fold, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($8) Q, 5, 7 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($8) A (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.5, CO folds, SB folds, BB calls $1.50.

River: ($11) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero???


Meh. It's a cheap call and we hold a relatively decent hand.
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Posted 08 July 2007 - 03:42 PM

QUOTE (holymackeral @ Saturday, July 7th, 2007, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Buying in short isn't nessecarily a bad thing. There's advantages to it, but I wont get too much into that.
As played you gotta at least call, making the thin value raise/push is also an option, but I'd most likely just call here if you dont know where your at. I'd assume that he's either got you beat or has a busted draw so calling >> value raise without reads IMO.

Bet more on the turn.


Very true, don't rag on people for this.

Yeah, I would almost certainly call. TPTK is probably good, although he could have donked you. Don't bet so little on the turn.
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Posted 09 July 2007 - 10:10 AM

I bet more preflop (because of position) or occasionally go for a checkraise if there is a lot of PF raising by the people in late position.
I would cbet flop (2/3 pot or so). You only have CO yet to act
Your turnbet is way to small... As played up to turn bet around 6 here.
The river is an easy call... Because you played the hand so weak he could be doing this with any piece of the board.

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 11:21 AM

It looks like a missed flush draw to me, as played I would just call but you should have bet about $6 on turn as it's is a drawing board... $1.5 on the turn is so cheap for a draw that you might as well have checked!!!!!
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Posted 09 July 2007 - 01:25 PM

personally if i'm villain i'm sticking around w/ a gutter ball or looking for my second pair for that weak turn bet about 90% of the time... that's better than 6:1 odds on your money


there's no way i'd give you credit for the A... & i'd likely bet a rivered 2 pair the same way...


sorry for sounding redundant, but i think $5-$6 on the turn was the correct play...


as this played out, i'd probably call the river bet & hope my TPTK was good...
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