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[NormanHaupt]

Okay, I have a serious problem with calling people down. if I bet into a pot I'll rarely fold. If I make a pair of T's on the flop, an A turns, and someone raises my bet, I'll call them down. This is bad, I guess. I'm confused because people tell me I need to call certain things because if they bluff me 1/10 times its profitable for them.I don't know when that line is.For example.Pocket TT in BB. Raise comes from MP1, SB completes + 1. I called because, I dunno, I just did. Should i have raised? I didn't have the chance to push someone so i didn't.Anyway, flop came 984 rainbow. SB bets, I raise, and MP1 reraises. SB calls. What should I have done?

[akishore]

here are my thoughts, norm.in big pots, tend to calling and staying in the pot trying to get to showdown. in small pots, tend to fold and get out early.say it's heads-up, you raise TT from MP and only the BB calls. flop comes AK2, he checks, you bet, he calls. turn comes 4, he checks, you bet, he raises. fold here. pot's small.on the other hand, let's say UTG raises, you three-bet with KK, two MP's cold-call three bets, the BB calls two, and the raiser calls. flop comes T64, it's checked to you, you bet, a limper raises, everyone calls, you three-bet, everyone calls.turn comes an ace. it's checked to you, you bet, and get checkraised by the original raiser. here, you can almost be sure you're beat, but for two bets to a showdown (one to call and hopefully just one on the river), you should never fold.these are both extreme examples (small heads-up pot and huge five-way pot), so maybe your example is where to draw the line.well, like ed miller says, there is no real line. just follow the SSHE guidelines to when you can consider a pot "big".to answer your example...1.three-bet pre-flop, but you know that. you don't three-bet to push anyone off, you three-bet for value and information. if he caps, you can put him on a narrower range of hands. same if he calls. this assumes no read otherwise, of course. anyway, this information not only helps you on later streets, it also makes the pot bigger and makes calling down more jusitifiable actually.2. calling is absolutely correct on the flop. it's only one bet to you. if a safe turn comes, checkraise that jerk. here's why you should have three-bet pre-flop: if an overcard comes on the turn, you can check-call the turn and river for just two bets, and it's more correct because the pot was bigger. since you didn't three-bet pre-flop, the pot is smaller, so if a dangerous overcard comes on the turn, you might have to lean towards check-folding.(note that check-raising an undercard turn is situational. three-betting pre-flop for information would have helped you here--if he capped, you can put him on most likely an overpair or maybe AK is he's LAG. you get my point.)hope this helps,aseem

[wrto4556]

I think you should have 3-bet preflop. Raise the flop, like you did, and call the 3-bet. I would do a stop and go, folding to a raise. It looks like you're beat.

[NormanHaupt]

ty for the reply guys.I think I'm just spewing chips calling chumps down like this.