Swift_Psycho 1 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Is check/folding when this turn hits alright, or should I bet out and then fold to a raise?PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is UTG with [Ks], [Kd]. Hero raises, BB calls.Flop: (8.40 SB) [Jc], [9s], [7c] (4 players)BB checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls, BB folds.Turn: (5.70 BB) [Tc] (3 players)Hero checks, UTG+2 bets, MP3 calls, Hero folds.River: (7.70 BB) [9d] (2 players)UTG+2 bets, MP3 calls $0.30 (All-In).Final Pot: 9.30 BB Link to post Share on other sites
NormanHaupt 0 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Is check/folding when this turn hits alright, or should I bet out and then fold to a raise?PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is UTG with [Ks], [Kd]. Hero raises, BB calls.Flop: (8.40 SB) [Jc], [9s], [7c] (4 players)BB checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls, BB folds.Turn: (5.70 BB) [Tc] (3 players)Hero checks, UTG+2 bets, MP3 calls, Hero folds.River: (7.70 BB) [9d] (2 players)UTG+2 bets, MP3 calls $0.30 (All-In).Final Pot: 9.30 BBI bet out because your check screams missed AK, which, if I hit anything at all, you better believe I'm not giving you a freebie to to catch AK on.I bet out, and probably still call down a raise because I'm a bad player like that. But fold to a raise.As soon as you check premium pocket pair, without anyone showing aggression, you know the fish are going to auto bet. Link to post Share on other sites
Swift_Psycho 1 Posted April 20, 2005 Author Share Posted April 20, 2005 Oh yeah, another question. If you do recommend betting out on the turn, what if I get a call? Say a blank hits on the river. Do I fire again, check/call or check/fold? Link to post Share on other sites
NormanHaupt 0 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 there's either drawing hands or made hands.If its a blank on the river, you bet obviously since your K's are best.someone could've been waiting to see if anything popped to beat their jacks, and assumed you were a missed big ace.Even if reraised on the river after a blank you call it, I guess. Link to post Share on other sites
Swift_Psycho 1 Posted April 20, 2005 Author Share Posted April 20, 2005 there's either drawing hands or made hands.If its a blank on the river, you bet obviously since your K's are best.someone could've been waiting to see if anything popped to beat their jacks, and assumed you were a missed big ace.Even if reraised on the river after a blank you call it, I guess.Are you looking at the same board I am? I don't mean to be insulting, but I'm not sure we are. You do realize that by the turn there is a 3-flush and a 4-card straight on the board right? Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 bet/fold both the turn and river. If you are raised on either one it's an easy fold. Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 bet out but fold to a raise.aseem Link to post Share on other sites
NormanHaupt 0 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 lol no insult taken. There's only a three flush, so callers, again, probably are drawing to a single club. As for the straight, its a gutshot, so only 4 cards in the deck beats you *at this point*. More callers probably have a Q.In addition to your over pair, any Q gives you the bitch end of a straight, provided its not a club. The biggest problem, I see, if you hit your K any Q beats you, in addition to the 8.The guys are right, bet/fold to a raise. Your hand could be way ahead or way behind. As soon as you check, you're going ot bet bet at and you're faced with a harder decision. Link to post Share on other sites
subsin 0 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Oh yeah, another question. If you do recommend betting out on the turn, what if I get a call? Say a blank hits on the river. Do I fire again, check/call or check/fold?never check/fold or autobet, you can do it by moving your mouse over there, think about your hand the and community cards and his hand, if you think he has u beat then fold, if u think u have the best hand then raise, take some time tahts all Link to post Share on other sites
Swift_Psycho 1 Posted April 21, 2005 Author Share Posted April 21, 2005 Oh yeah, another question. If you do recommend betting out on the turn, what if I get a call? Say a blank hits on the river. Do I fire again, check/call or check/fold?never check/fold or autobet, you can do it by moving your mouse over there, think about your hand the and community cards and his hand, if you think he has u beat then fold, if u think u have the best hand then raise, take some time tahts allNo no, you misunderstood. I don't use those buttons. When I said check/fold, I meant check with the intention of folding to a bet. Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Oh yeah, another question. If you do recommend betting out on the turn, what if I get a call? Say a blank hits on the river. Do I fire again, check/call or check/fold?never check/fold or autobet, you can do it by moving your mouse over there, think about your hand the and community cards and his hand, if you think he has u beat then fold, if u think u have the best hand then raise, take some time tahts allNo no, you misunderstood. I don't use those buttons. When I said check/fold, I meant check with the intention of folding to a bet. :-) I think you should bet/fold. If you check, hands that you have beat will check behind you and you gain nothing, but hands that have you beat bet. You should value bet your KK and if it's raised fold. Link to post Share on other sites
Swift_Psycho 1 Posted April 21, 2005 Author Share Posted April 21, 2005 Oh yeah, another question. If you do recommend betting out on the turn, what if I get a call? Say a blank hits on the river. Do I fire again, check/call or check/fold?never check/fold or autobet, you can do it by moving your mouse over there, think about your hand the and community cards and his hand, if you think he has u beat then fold, if u think u have the best hand then raise, take some time tahts allNo no, you misunderstood. I don't use those buttons. When I said check/fold, I meant check with the intention of folding to a bet. :-) I think you should bet/fold. If you check, hands that you have beat will check behind you and you gain nothing, but hands that have you beat call bet. You should value bet your KK and if it's raised fold.Yes, I understand now. I got you the first time around, I was just explaining to subsin what I meant when I said check/fold because he/she (not really sure which it is) apparently misinterpreted what I meant when I said it. Link to post Share on other sites
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