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[Swift_Psycho]

Is check/folding when this turn hits alright, or should I bet out and then fold to a raise?PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is UTG with [Ks], [Kd]. Hero raises, BB calls.Flop: (8.40 SB) [Jc], [9s], [7c] (4 players)BB checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls, BB folds.Turn: (5.70 BB) [Tc] (3 players)Hero checks, UTG+2 bets, MP3 calls, Hero folds.River: (7.70 BB) [9d] (2 players)UTG+2 bets, MP3 calls $0.30 (All-In).Final Pot: 9.30 BB

[NormanHaupt]

Swift_Psycho said:

Is check/folding when this turn hits alright, or should I bet out and then fold to a raise?PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is UTG with [Ks], [Kd].    Hero raises, BB calls.Flop: (8.40 SB) [Jc], [9s], [7c] (4 players)BB checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls, BB folds.Turn: (5.70 BB) [Tc] (3 players)Hero checks, UTG+2 bets, MP3 calls, Hero folds.River: (7.70 BB) [9d] (2 players)UTG+2 bets, MP3 calls $0.30 (All-In).Final Pot: 9.30 BB

I bet out because your check screams missed AK, which, if I hit anything at all, you better believe I'm not giving you a freebie to to catch AK on.I bet out, and probably still call down a raise because I'm a bad player like that. But fold to a raise.As soon as you check premium pocket pair, without anyone showing aggression, you know the fish are going to auto bet.

[Swift_Psycho]

Oh yeah, another question. If you do recommend betting out on the turn, what if I get a call? Say a blank hits on the river. Do I fire again, check/call or check/fold?

[NormanHaupt]

there's either drawing hands or made hands.If its a blank on the river, you bet obviously since your K's are best.someone could've been waiting to see if anything popped to beat their jacks, and assumed you were a missed big ace.Even if reraised on the river after a blank you call it, I guess.

[Swift_Psycho]

NormanHaupt said:

there's either drawing hands or made hands.If its a blank on the river, you bet obviously since your K's are best.someone could've been waiting to see if anything popped to beat their jacks, and assumed you were a missed big ace.Even if reraised on the river after a blank you call it, I guess.

Are you looking at the same board I am? I don't mean to be insulting, but I'm not sure we are. You do realize that by the turn there is a 3-flush and a 4-card straight on the board right?

[wrto4556]

bet/fold both the turn and river. If you are raised on either one it's an easy fold.

[akishore]

bet out but fold to a raise.aseem

[NormanHaupt]

lol no insult taken. There's only a three flush, so callers, again, probably are drawing to a single club. As for the straight, its a gutshot, so only 4 cards in the deck beats you *at this point*. More callers probably have a Q.In addition to your over pair, any Q gives you the bitch end of a straight, provided its not a club. The biggest problem, I see, if you hit your K any Q beats you, in addition to the 8.The guys are right, bet/fold to a raise. Your hand could be way ahead or way behind. As soon as you check, you're going ot bet bet at and you're faced with a harder decision.

[subsin]

Swift_Psycho said:

Oh yeah, another question.  If you do recommend betting out on the turn, what if I get a call? Say a blank hits on the river.  Do I fire again, check/call or check/fold?

never check/fold or autobet, you can do it by moving your mouse over there, think about your hand the and community cards and his hand, if you think he has u beat then fold, if u think u have the best hand then raise, take some time tahts all

[Swift_Psycho]

subsin said:

Swift_Psycho said:

Oh yeah, another question.  If you do recommend betting out on the turn, what if I get a call? Say a blank hits on the river.  Do I fire again, check/call or check/fold?

never check/fold or autobet, you can do it by moving your mouse over there, think about your hand the and community cards and his hand, if you think he has u beat then fold, if u think u have the best hand then raise, take some time tahts all

No no, you misunderstood. I don't use those buttons. When I said check/fold, I meant check with the intention of folding to a bet.

[wrto4556]

Swift_Psycho said:

subsin said:

Swift_Psycho said:

Oh yeah, another question.  If you do recommend betting out on the turn, what if I get a call? Say a blank hits on the river.  Do I fire again, check/call or check/fold?

never check/fold or autobet, you can do it by moving your mouse over there, think about your hand the and community cards and his hand, if you think he has u beat then fold, if u think u have the best hand then raise, take some time tahts all

No no, you misunderstood. I don't use those buttons. When I said check/fold, I meant check with the intention of folding to a bet.

:-) I think you should bet/fold. If you check, hands that you have beat will check behind you and you gain nothing, but hands that have you beat bet. You should value bet your KK and if it's raised fold.

[Swift_Psycho]

wrto4556 said:

Swift_Psycho said:

subsin said:

Swift_Psycho said:

Oh yeah, another question.  If you do recommend betting out on the turn, what if I get a call? Say a blank hits on the river.  Do I fire again, check/call or check/fold?

never check/fold or autobet, you can do it by moving your mouse over there, think about your hand the and community cards and his hand, if you think he has u beat then fold, if u think u have the best hand then raise, take some time tahts all

No no, you misunderstood. I don't use those buttons. When I said check/fold, I meant check with the intention of folding to a bet.

:-) I think you should bet/fold. If you check, hands that you have beat will check behind you and you gain nothing, but hands that have you beat call bet. You should value bet your KK and if it's raised fold.

Yes, I understand now. I got you the first time around, I was just explaining to subsin what I meant when I said check/fold because he/she (not really sure which it is) apparently misinterpreted what I meant when I said it.