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[Frez]

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)

Preflop: Frezinator is BB with K , A .
2 folds, MP2 raises, 1 fold, Button calls, 1 fold, Frezinator calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) Q , K , 7 (3 players)
Frezinator bets, MP2 calls, Button calls.

Turn: (4.66 BB) Q (3 players)
Frezinator bets, MP2 folds, Button raises, Frezinator calls.

River: (8.66 BB) T (2 players)
Frezinator checks, Button bets, Frezinator calls.

Final Pot: 10.66 BB

Cally?

[Heels930]

No offense dude but if you have to ask all these questions you probly shouldn't be playing 3/6.

[mrdannyg]

i think every street is wrong, so i'm not sure where to start.

preflop, 3-betting is better than calling. if you 3-bet, you're leading most flops, but clearly this one too. since we hit, it makes playing the hand a lot easier.

given preflop play, i like a check-raise much better than a donkbet. if you do choose to donkbet, i think you need to 3-bet. the worst option is to donk/call the flop, then donk/call the turn. you are getting horrible value - giving up the max bets to better hands, and winning the least from worse hands.

given the flop donk/call, you need to check/call or check/raise the turn, depending on villain's range and reads. given the scary turn card, i actually like check/raising better, since he's only winning with AA, AQ and QQ, and he can't 3-bet AA here.

river is fine.

the whole hand is gross, and i'm pretty sure you got the worst value on every street (except river).

[Zach6668]

I'm on my way to a Las Vegas Denny's, but quickly... and I'm going to be mean here.. but you NEED to 3-bet preflop like 100% of the time... seriously.

[RISEorFall]

No offense dude but if you have to ask all these questions you probly shouldn't be playing 3/6.

Don't be mean. it doesnt help anybody.
Frez, from what I can tell, is a pretty decent player, much better than most of the people i see at 3/6

as for the hand, theyre right, preflop 3-bet is a must, even oop
whole hand plays different after that

[Actuary]

No offense dude but if you have to ask all these questions you probly shouldn't be playing 3/6.

Based on that logic, I should be playing Play money tables.



If you mean specific question one who plays 3/6 should know by now, then please explain.

[Actuary]

Danny,
what hand are you reading/

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Frez:

Preflop is gross.

The turn call is shakey w/o a read.
But you underrespresented your hand preflop.

Would he semi bluff raise you on a scare card?

[Frez]

No offense dude but if you have to ask all these questions you probly shouldn't be playing 3/6.

Offence taken.

Anything useful to say?


To the rest of you, yes, I knew I would get crap for not 3 betting preflop. This was part timid because I've been getting **** kicked for a week by 2 outers (I should know not to change my game because of bad luck) and part mixing it up, since if I do hit here they should not expect it. I also hate this hand OOP.

But I guess, since I say I am mixing it up to disguise my hand, then that sets the table for the flop check raise. I like multitabling, but sometimes it's hard to focus on specific strategy bits like this.

[RISEorFall]

But I guess, since I say I am mixing it up to disguise my hand, then that sets the table for the flop check raise. I like multitabling, but sometimes it's hard to focus on specific strategy bits like this.

which is why you should work your way up to multitabling. get used to one table first, then move to 2, etc.

also, i wouldnt worry about mixing up my play much in lower limits. i dont even do it much at 3/6 or 5/10

[cubbybri]

And this is what I find hardest. Not getting reads. So my answer I guess is to play my straight ABC game until I have a read. Just scared I'm missing lots of bets when I play the ABC. Guess I should not complain if I can get myself back to playing winning poker.

[SCS]

No offense dude but if you have to ask all these questions you probly shouldn't be playing 3/6.

Awesome advice. I hear cardrunners.com is always looking for new instructors. You should contact them.

[mrdannyg]

Danny,
what hand are you reading/

i think my advice works for the hand, i just wrote it poorly.

basically i was trying to say even if we ignore preflop, we're still playing the hand terribly. flop play, in order of goodness:

check/raise
donk/3-bet
donk/call.

given our flop play, turn play in order of goodness:

check/raise
check/call (arguably switch with #1)
donk/call