$11 Deepstack - Top 2 Pair Vs Huge Overbet

[Flushgarden 0]

Not much of a read...BB has been somewhat active but I haven't seen him really get out of line. My image should be fairly tight although I did have to show one semibluff with a flush draw earlier when I ended up backing into two pair instead. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Hero (t12055)SB (t7615)BB (t9750)UTG (t2625)UTG+1 (t9595)MP1 (t4180)MP2 (t19060)MP3 (t5990)CO (t8830)Preflop: Hero is Button with T, A. 4 folds, MP3 calls t50, CO calls t50, Hero calls t50, 1 fold, BB checks.Flop: (t225) T, 5, 6(4 players)BB checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, Hero bets t150, BB calls t150, MP3 folds, CO folds.Turn: (t525) A(2 players)BB bets t150, Hero raises to t600, BB calls t450.River: (t1725) 9(2 players)BB bets t8950 (All-In), Hero?

[tobytobey 0]

It has been my experience that a huge overbet to a pot usually mean that the villian is holding a big hand. It's trying soo hard to look like a bluff that it probably isn't.The way the hand played out with no pre-flop raise, looks like the villian has a set of 5's or 6's, where he's content to let you do the betting for him. Although, now that I see that he's in the BB, I'm thinking he might have flopped 2 pair or had something like A5 or A6.I think I lay this hand down, but then again, i'm a big wuss.

[YBravo 0]

I think you have to call here, although it's close. He can slowplay two pair. Plus, your stack is in decent shape compared to the blinds if you call and lose.

[DonkSlayer 1]

Why did you raise the turn? If you're ahead you're way ahead, if you're behind, you just let the pot get out of control.

[gobears 0]

If villain hasn't gotten out of line then I would fold here. The overshove on the river reads like a made hand that is trying to pretend it's a bluff.A set or 78 are in the picture.

[Flushgarden 0]

Why did you raise the turn? If you're ahead you're way ahead, if you're behind, you just let the pot get out of control.

It never occured to me to not raise...value bet? Also I dont think I'm so far ahead that I can give a free card when there is 2 to a straight on the board.Also, yeah I did fold here. I know dont post results but its not really a result since there was no further action and no showdown.

[tskillz187 0]

There is no draw that he can represent missing. I think he has 78 here soooooooooo often. It's the only draw on the board and it got there and he shoved into you. If he's donk shoving with something worse than top 2 he will stack off in a worse spot soon.

[meservery 0]

I suck in this situation and always call. Anyone like to raise this preflop from the button after a few limpers?

[Orion071 0]

This really feels like 78 to me. He called the flop with his OESD. He tried a small bet on the turn to draw cheaply, but you raised him. You didn't raise him enough on the turn to force him out and now he knows you have a big hand. When he hits the river he figures you'll call his shovel. I think you made a good fold.

[tskillz187 0]

I suck in this situation and always call. Anyone like to raise this preflop from the button after a few limpers?

Not really, I like it about as much as folding. Which is fine. I think they are all fine, oh and the raise on the turn is absolutely right if OP is thinking the turn raise is bad.

[DinkDonk 1]

Why did you raise the turn? If you're ahead you're way ahead, if you're behind, you just let the pot get out of control.

Yeah, but in that case that he is way ahead (which I think is very often here) a raise gets him more value on the turn, and allows him to make a bigger value bet if checked to on the river. As played I think it's got to be a reluctant lay down on the river.

[tskillz187 0]

Yeah, but in that case that he is way ahead (which I think is very often here) a raise gets him more value on the turn, and allows him to make a bigger value bet if checked to on the river. As played I think it's got to be a reluctant lay down on the river.

His point is if he's way ahead that villain will not call the turn bet. He's either way ahead or way behind, so the turn raise only gets called by sets. I don't agree with that position. You are certainly getting called by AJ AQ AK 56 78. Sure you could just call, keep the pot small, and hopefully induce a river bluff, but that only works when he has nothing AND will fire with nothing. I'd much rather try and get value while also protecting my hand than to try and induce money from a bluffer.I raise turn and I also v-bet the river if checked to.