mikeysong 0 Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 the table is pretty action packed.So far they saw me 3bet and push the turn w/45d on a 4s 7d 9d jc board as well as me doubling up w/QQ after re-raising from BB and calling a shove postflop w/overpair.stack sizes:utg 6 or 700bb 400me: 1400 utg limps - this is the guy who doubled me up when i had Qs (he had 9s)folds to me on the buttoni raise to 20 w/AsJdsb callsutg callsFlop is Jc 8c 3s pot: 80ishbb leads for $50 (he's kinda donkish, I'm pretty sure he's doing this w/either tp or fd)utg callsI raise to 175 total w/the intent of folding to utg's shovebb folds, utg thinks and callsturn is 5c pot: 400ish?utg checks, and i bet 200 w/the intent of checking river and folding to a shove.Despite this being an easier line for me to read villains, is checking the turn and evaluating the river a better play as I may induce a bet from tp worse kicker or a bluff? What about the argument for image/metagame? That I'm going to bet flop n turn a lot/build big pots so people have to be ready to play big pots w/me? (whereas I'm obv. only calling if I feel i'm ahead) Link to post Share on other sites
cwik 0 Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 the table is pretty action packed.So far they saw me 3bet and push the turn w/45d on a 4s 7d 9d jc board as well as me doubling up w/QQ after re-raising from BB and calling a shove postflop w/overpair.stack sizes:utg 6 or 700bb 400me: 1400 utg limps - this is the guy who doubled me up when i had Qs (he had 9s)folds to mei raise to 20 w/AsJdsb callsutg callsFlop is Jc 8c 3s pot: 80ishbb leads for $50 (he's kinda donkish, I'm pretty sure he's doing this w/either tp or fd)utg callsI raise to 175 total w/the intent of folding to utg's shovebb folds, utg thinks and callsturn is 5c pot: 400ish?utg checks, and i bet 200 w/the intent of checking river and folding to a shove.Despite this being an easier line for me to read villains, is checking the turn and evaluating the river a better play as I may induce a bet from tp worse kicker or a bluff? What about the argument for image/metagame? That I'm going to bet flop n turn a lot/build big pots so people have to be ready to play big pots w/me? (whereas I'm obv. only calling if I feel i'm ahead)A worse jack (KJ, QJ, TJ) will almost never bet the turn here, and the flush/straight draw will most likely check behind too. The only hands I really see putting in a bet behind you is 2 pair (not sure if this fits the utg's range), a set which is most likely to put in a bet, or a tricky opponent who floated behind with air (unlikely). Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 A worse jack (KJ, QJ, TJ) will almost never bet the turn here, and the flush/straight draw will most likely check behind too. The only hands I really see putting in a bet behind you is 2 pair (not sure if this fits the utg's range), a set which is most likely to put in a bet, or a tricky opponent who floated behind with air (unlikely).Mike is on button here. Guy checks to him on the turn.Mark Link to post Share on other sites
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