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#1 JJACKSON123

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Posted 14 June 2007 - 08:05 PM

$120 6 man sng on bodog

6 left, blinds 10-20

hero: 2300
player A: 1700
player B: 2000

JJ on the button

Player A makes it 70 to go under the gun
Player B min raises to 120
folds to me, i decide to re minraise to 170 to open up the action to player B to see what he does without risking a lot of chips

A and B get all of their chips in, i fold

that bad?

#2 Worm109

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Posted 14 June 2007 - 08:17 PM

first of all, you know this is no-limit right??

secondly, your raise looks so incredibly weak...i really cant describe how bad your play is....please make posts telling us when you play, what site, what stakes, and what table...thank you

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Posted 14 June 2007 - 08:24 PM

QUOTE (Worm109 @ Thursday, June 14th, 2007, 8:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
first of all, you know this is no-limit right??

secondly, your raise looks so incredibly weak...i really cant describe how bad your play is....please make posts telling us when you play, what site, what stakes, and what table...thank you


What do you think this is general? No need to flame the guy. Try to keep it constructive here. Yes the play is super weak but if we always have idiots like you bashing people then we won't hav many people left here in strat.

To the OP, Id make a raise to about 350 and then evaluate.
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#4 JJACKSON123

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Posted 14 June 2007 - 08:26 PM

i thought 350 too, but you dont think 170 does almost the same thing while risking less chips

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Posted 14 June 2007 - 08:33 PM

QUOTE (JJACKSON123 @ Thursday, June 14th, 2007, 8:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i thought 350 too, but you dont think 170 does almost the same thing while risking less chips



any good player will see your raise as weakness, so no it doesnt accomplish anything.....you wouldnt make that play with AA or KK would you?? exactly.....people will see it as weakness and a good player will reraise that everytime with a very wide range of hands....raising to 300-400 makes it imperative that the other person has a hand if they come back over the top of you....if you raise to 350 and they both push then you can be 100% certain you are beat

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Posted 14 June 2007 - 08:36 PM

QUOTE (JJACKSON123 @ Thursday, June 14th, 2007, 8:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i thought 350 too, but you dont think 170 does almost the same thing while risking less chips


Then it is only 100 more to the UTG raiser. If he assumes the short stacked player will push in for the rest of his stack then he is getting >3:1 on his call. If he just flat calls then you have no idea where he is at. It could be a low PP, big PP or overcards. That makes it hard to play post flop. By making him call the extra ~200-250 you get rid of the likelihood of him playing low garbage hands. Also your raise looks really weak so he may play back at you with a hand like 88-1010 and force you to lay it down.
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#7 JJACKSON123

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Posted 14 June 2007 - 08:41 PM

there wasnt a short stacked player in this hand

edit: oops, 2k, not 200... does this change anything




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