litlebullet 0 Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 is limping with jacks preflop acceptable in full ring? I'm a cash game noob and that was my micro limit sng instincts coming into play there. Anyway, what do we do here? PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)UTG ($27.60)UTG+1 ($15.35)MP1 ($14.75)MP2 ($27.65)MP3 ($39.50)Hero ($7.15)Button ($7.80)SB ($14.50)BB ($1.20)Preflop: Hero is CO with J , J . UTG raises to $0.5, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.50, 3 folds.Flop: ($1.35) J , 7 , 2 (2 players)UTG bets $0.75, Hero ? Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 k well. with the jacks issue, i think limping with jacks, especialy in late position is bad playing.Its smash strategy. (basically limping with any pocket pair lower than Kings to try and hit a set.)u are losing too much money by playing jacks for set value in a limped pot, because if and when u do hit your set, u want there to be a decent sized pot on the flop so you can invest more money than you would if it was limped.It will take practice, and many many cash game hands to get to a point where ur competent enough to play any two cards from any position and maximize ur EV when ur hand hits. and minimizing ur loss when ur hand misses.I used to play very TAG, and always played Jacks or lower for set value by limping. Just takes a little time or practice... whichever u wanna call it.for the hand:he min raised preflop and now throws out a feeler looking bet. if u just call on this bored, i'm sure he'l assume u have a piece of the J, KJ, QJ, J,10 etc...I'd raise it up. raise it to $2 if he has anything at all, he'll call, if he's playing aces like a retard, he'll shovel. nh. Link to post Share on other sites
Snamuh 0 Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 First, can I ask why you are only at like 30% of max buy-in? Always buy-in for full to get maximum value from donks! As played, raise to 2 for the reasons Royal listed. Link to post Share on other sites
fckthis 0 Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I dont mind the flat call here. He either has air or a big hand, so if he's behind hopefully he'll get pot stuck when he turns his card, or continues to bluff/value bet.If you know your opponent to have calling station tendencies, you can play this fast though. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I dont mind the flat call here. He either has air or a big hand, so if he's behind hopefully he'll get pot stuck when he turns his card, or continues to bluff/value bet.If you know your opponent to have calling station tendencies, you can play this fast though.Gentle raises. Bloat the pot if turn coordinates the board somehow. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Perfect spot for the minraise. If the villain has AK or any kind of hand, he won't fold for a min raise. If he has an overpair, you give him a chance to play back at you. It also gets the pot getting a little bigger which is really important since you such a huge hand. Link to post Share on other sites
Webslinger516 0 Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 A small raise here is definitely a good way to get to value town. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 A small raise here is definitely a good way to get to value town.If you don't stop saying "value town" I'm gonna have you killed. I promise Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 If you don't stop saying "value town" I'm gonna have you killed. I promise Gotta make a move to a town that's right for meTown to keep me movin'Keep me groovin' with some energy.Well, I talk about it,Talk about it,Talk about it,Talk about it,Talk about, Talk about,Talk about movin,Gotta move on.Gotta move on.Gotta move on.Won't you take me to Valuetown.Won't you take me to Valuetown.Won't you take me to Valuetown.Won't you take me to Valuetown. Link to post Share on other sites
Webslinger516 0 Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Won't you take me to Valuetown.Won't you take me to Valuetown.Won't you take me to Valuetown.Won't you take me to Valuetown.On behalf of my client Royal, I am suing for copyright infringement. Even though I own half the rights. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I'm gonna have you killed. I promiseYou think I'm joking.I know people. Link to post Share on other sites
Webslinger516 0 Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 You think I'm joking.I know people.I haven't dropped the V-word since your post! It was mtdesmoines! And he said it like 4 times, so you have to have him killed 4 times. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I haven't dropped the V-word since your post! It was mtdesmoines! And he said it like 4 times, so you have to have him killed 4 times.Please kill me. I'm running bad in life right now. Link to post Share on other sites
Webslinger516 0 Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Please kill me. I'm running bad in life right now.Hang in there, Sir. Link to post Share on other sites
Money022 0 Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Hang in there, Sir.I wouldn't recommend saying the word "hang" to a guy who just asked to be killed and said he's running bad in life. VALUE TOWN! Link to post Share on other sites
Snamuh 0 Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Please kill me. I'm running bad in life right now.Just variance! And suicide is very -EV Link to post Share on other sites
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