River Screwed Up My Slowplay, Should I Bet Out Now?

[Roberts2003 0]

Villian just sat down, and i assume hes a desperate donkey trying to double or loseFull Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $10/$20 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)Hero (SB): $2,062.00BB: $1,420.00UTG: $1,940.00CO: $2,113.50BTN: $1,019.00Preflop: Hero is dealt T A (5 Players)3 folds, Hero raises to $60.00, BB calls $40.00Flop: ($120) T A 7 (2 Players)Hero bets $100.00, BB calls $100.00Turn: ($320) T (2 Players)Hero bets $155.00, BB raises to $310.00, Hero calls $155.00River:($940) 4 (2 Players)

[Zach6668 513]

I suggest using the converters that I've linked in the stickies... they've been tested to work with FCP... unlike this one...

[mtdesmoines 2]

Villian just sat down, and i assume hes a desperate donkey trying to double or loseFull Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $10/$20 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)[color:black]Hero (SB): $2,062.00[/color]BB: $1,420.00UTG: $1,940.00CO: $2,113.50BTN: $1,019.00[color:black]Preflop:[/color] Hero is dealt T:club: A:diamond: (5 Players)3 folds, [color:red]Hero raises to $60.00[/color], BB calls $40.00[color:black]Flop:[/color] ($120) T:diamond: A:heart: 7:diamond: (2 Players)[color:red]Hero bets $100.00[/color], BB calls $100.00[color:black]Turn:[/color] ($320) T:spade: (2 Players)[color:red]Hero bets $155.00[/color], [color:red]BB raises to $310.00[/color], Hero calls $155.00[color:black]River:[/color] ($940) 4:diamond: (2 Players)

I like about $250 here. If villain has a flush, he's raising into you. If villain has a KT, it looks reasonably scared and callable.

[Naismith 0]

I like about $250 here. If villain has a flush, he's raising into you. If villain has a KT, it looks reasonably scared and callable.

I don't like this. If he has KT, he's paying off more than this. I don't love the turn slowplay, either. I would bet 500 here. If he has the T, he's paying you off. If he slowplayed a set on the flop, he's getting it all in. If he did a delayed semi-bluff with a flush draw, he's probably getting it all in here, too.

[dgostate8 0]

I like the idea of leading for $500, sounds like he's got something to pay you off.

[Acid_Knight 2]

I bet more liek $600 or $700 here. They are playing 5 handed and trips is still a big hand, even though the flush got there. His hand looks more like he flopped bottom set or something since he only minraised on the turn.FWIW, I am probably gonna raise the turn after he pops it. If he's got a flush draw, he's gonna come along most likely. If he's got Tx, I might get all of his chips there. If he is on a flush draw and the river blanks, you won't get more money anyway.I actually like a c/r here. Unless he has a naked A and waited til the turn to raise, then he'll be betting 100% of his range on the river. Since you'd never check a flush on the river (would you?) then he should be value betting trips or a flush or a boat. I'd take the risk and go for a check raise here. There's also the chance that he's running some kind of weird bluff and you'll spoil that by leading the river.Side note: I fear for your bankroll.

[Shimmering Wang 1]

What's the point of flat-calling here OOP? This seems to be one of those "I have a good hand, I have to call as a reflex" plays. Alot of hands that you're crushing will call the turn-reraise, anyway. If you get check-raised here, there's nothing wrong with just calling, but when you're out of position on the turn with a dominant hand, just keep adding money to the pot. This could be all sorts of hands that plan on checking back on the river. Give yourself the BEST chance to get AS MUCH money in the pot against hands that seem inclined to do so. He just built you a big pot, so don't take your foot off on the break because you don't want to lose him. If he's bluffing, your best case scenario is that he fires another barrel. If he's got a real hand, your best case scenario is stacking the ever-living shit out of his punk ass. In case you're wondering, the latter is the better option.On this river, I probably lead out for 700 or so, or check and hope to snap off a bluff or slaughter a diamond draw semi-bluffer.Wang

[mtdesmoines 2]

FWIW, I am probably gonna raise the turn after he pops it. If he's got a flush draw, he's gonna come along most likely. If he's got Tx, I might get all of his chips there. If he is on a flush draw and the river blanks, you won't get more money anyway....Side note: I fear for your bankroll.

[fckthis 0]

3 bet turn. As played, lead for 650-750.

[Roberts2003 0]

does everyone agree that if the river isn't a diamond, then a CR AI is a sweet play?

[Royal_Tour 0]

10/20 you crazy *******.nice!!

[Acid_Knight 2]

does everyone agree that if the river isn't a diamond, then a CR AI is a sweet play?

A small reraise on the turn is correct here 100% of the time.Any hand that he's willing to v-bet the river with (non-diamond river) is a hand that he'd call a raise with on the turn. He will also call on the turn with a diamond draw, where he will fold it if the river blanks.

[Roberts2003 0]

A small reraise on the turn is correct here 100% of the time.Any hand that he's willing to v-bet the river with (non-diamond river) is a hand that he'd call a raise with on the turn. He will also call on the turn with a diamond draw, where he will fold it if the river blanks.

thats true, good points. i think its unlikely he has a diamond draw here though given his play. i guess i had plans to get too fancy, as a 3 bet on the turn does look like the best play.

[Royal_Tour 0]

thats true, good points. i think its unlikely he has a diamond draw here though given his play. i guess i had plans to get too fancy, as a 3 bet on the turn does look like the best play.

you never know. I've seen people play draws very weird on every street.he might think if he raises you here, and you only smooth call. and he misses his draw, he can fire and win this pot.

[mtdesmoines 2]

RE: $250 bet

I don't like this. If he has KT, he's paying off more than this. I don't love the turn slowplay, either. I would bet 500 here. If he has the T, he's paying you off. If he slowplayed a set on the flop, he's getting it all in. If he did a delayed semi-bluff with a flush draw, he's probably getting it all in here, too.

I dunno ... it's read-dependent, but if he's looking to double up or lose it (noted in OP, and we have to rely on these reads as our information), he's prolly going to try to cram a T down our throat hard. And, as AK pointed out, the turn was the place to make him try it. Here's my reasoning.If he has a KT, he prolly can't resist raising and we're taking a big bite out of him. If he has a TTT77 boat (whatever is there), he's raising and we're stacking him.If he hit the flush, he prolly can't resist raising and we might stack him. If he has an A, he's calling the shorter bet, not just folding to it.Anyway, my original intent was to post a range between $250 and $500, so I'm not disagreeing that the $500 is "wrong."

[pokerplayer24 0]

Um bet more on the turn. Once he raises make it like 750. if he has 10x he'll probly push.

[Lavitz 0]

I like donk min reraising turn. If he has a draw he isnt folding and if he has a 10 there is a very good possibility that he will come back over the top. Also, if he is doing this with an ace, which is pretty unlikely, it will hopefully price him in for bigger river bet. That river bet is too small. He likely has a hand like 910 or 10J and will pay off a big bet.

[Roberts2003 0]

I like donk min reraising turn. If he has a draw he isnt folding and if he has a 10 there is a very good possibility that he will come back over the top. Also, if he is doing this with an ace, which is pretty unlikely, it will hopefully price him in for bigger river bet. That river bet is too small. He likely has a hand like 910 or 10J and will pay off a big bet.

good read Lavitz. i think since i was playing higher then i normally do, it affected my play and i tried to get too fancy. i ended up betting out 480 and he called with 10 J. i felt so gross when i saw that as i clearly should have been able to get everything.

[KramitDaToad 0]

As well as 3-betting the turn, bet more on the turn initially.If he's calling 155 he's calling 200-220 in position. It will bloat the pot in a more subtle fashion and tie him to it tighter.

[Roberts2003 0]

As well as 3-betting the turn, bet more on the turn initially.If he's calling 155 he's calling 200-220 in position. It will bloat the pot in a more subtle fashion and tie him to it tighter.

well i thought he might try to run a bluff more often if i bet 155 instead of 200 to 220

[krup24 0]

FWIW, I am probably gonna raise the turn after he pops it. If he's got a flush draw, he's gonna come along most likely. If he's got Tx, I might get all of his chips there. If he is on a flush draw and the river blanks, you won't get more money anyway.

I'm totally befuddled here by OPs turn action. I really don't think the raise is a flush draw as I would anticipate this raise on the flop and not the turn. I have to say this is a T almost always. Say 9T-KT. Rarely 77. Neither hand is going anywhere. Reraise the turn. As it played out I kinda like a C/R on the river. Flush got there and trip Ts are highly possible. The only thing I would worry about is him putting you on the flush or better and checking behind his hand. Thus this is another reason I raise the turn. And now that I'm thinking out loud I think I bet approx $500 on the river.

[suicideking 0]

Villian just sat down, and i assume hes a desperate donkey trying to double or loseFull Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $10/$20 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)Hero (SB): $2,062.00BB: $1,420.00UTG: $1,940.00CO: $2,113.50BTN: $1,019.00Preflop: Hero is dealt T A (5 Players)3 folds, Hero raises to $60.00, BB calls $40.00Flop: ($120) T A 7 (2 Players)Hero bets $100.00, BB calls $100.00Turn: ($320) T (2 Players)Hero bets $155.00, BB raises to $310.00, Hero calls $155.00River:($940) 4 (2 Players)

Am I crazy and misreading this, or do you have a boat? I must be reading something wrong, or just don't understand it. Shove the river, especially given your initial read on him. So many hands that called on the turn are gonna call on that river too.

[krup24 0]

Am I crazy and misreading this, or do you have a boat? I must be reading something wrong, or just don't understand it. Shove the river, especially given your initial read on him. So many hands that called on the turn are gonna call on that river too.

he has a boat and the villian raised the turn not the hero