Moron Or Chip Dump?

[doox 15]

PokerStars Game #10297063899: Tournament #52175161, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/06/06 - 05:18:53 (ET)Table '52175161 4' 9-max Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 1: indie01 (6485 in chips) Seat 2: lescoot (9060 in chips) Seat 3: Boosty77 (14965 in chips) Seat 4: chinus (20730 in chips) Seat 5: Tazz86 (2635 in chips) Seat 6: Baboom177 (4410 in chips) Seat 7: Doox (2125 in chips) Seat 8: machinaGod (6655 in chips) Seat 9: MNP_420 (435 in chips) indie01: posts the ante 25lescoot: posts the ante 25Boosty77: posts the ante 25chinus: posts the ante 25Tazz86: posts the ante 25Baboom177: posts the ante 25Doox: posts the ante 25machinaGod: posts the ante 25MNP_420: posts the ante 25chinus: posts small blind 200Tazz86: posts big blind 400*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Doox [2c 9d]Baboom177: calls 400Doox: folds machinaGod: folds MNP_420: folds indie01: calls 400lescoot: folds Boosty77: folds chinus: calls 200Tazz86: checks *** FLOP *** [5d 3c 2h]chinus: checks Tazz86: checks Baboom177: checks indie01: bets 400chinus: calls 400Tazz86: folds Baboom177: calls 400*** TURN *** [5d 3c 2h] [Qd]chinus: checks Baboom177: bets 800indie01: raises 800 to 1600chinus: calls 1600Baboom177: calls 800*** RIVER *** [5d 3c 2h Qd] [Qc]chinus: bets 4000Baboom177: folds indie01: raises 60 to 4060 and is all-inchinus: folds indie01 collected 15825 from potindie01: doesn't show hand Doox said, "..."chinus said, "lol"*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 15825 | Rake 0 Board [5d 3c 2h Qd Qc]Seat 1: indie01 collected (15825)Seat 2: lescoot folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: Boosty77 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: chinus (small blind) folded on the RiverSeat 5: Tazz86 (big blind) folded on the FlopSeat 6: Baboom177 folded on the RiverSeat 7: Doox folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: machinaGod folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: MNP_420 folded before Flop (didn't bet)This was at the final table of a 45-person SNG, btw.

[loxo 0]

That's pretty ugly. It is only a $1 tourn but I'm always suspicious of these kind of things.

[rogerwilco 0]

chinus said, "lol"

This comment makes me think it's rather a moron or a misclick than cheating. If it was collusion he'd probably not draw attention to the stupidity of folding here.It's still very fishy though.

[Jam-Fly 8]

What if he had 47?? Is it not +EV to fold for 60 more?

[Jam-Fly 8]

btw, nice brag post

[Sunny 0]

sick read

[Hektor 0]

Third option: MisclickI've had the displeasure of folding the nuts by mistake.Had something like trip Kings on an otherwise rag table and bet 3000 out of 3060 by mistake. Didn't drag the slider far enough.My opponent raises to 6k to get my last 60 and I hit fold by mistake ...Took me about a month before I was able even smile at it.

[therescav 0]

Personally I think it was a really dumb play.I mean, it only cost 60 more. Why fold?I just don't get it.

[rog 0]

Dumb play. Chip dumping in a $1 sit and go? Come on... Guy was on a stone cold bluff and got picked off, so he folded. Probably meant to be all in, but given that he wasn't, he saved 60 chips for the next hand.

[Snamuh 0]

That's really suspicious but it COULD have been a bluff that failed horribly or something.

[hblask 1]

What if he had 47?? Is it not +EV to fold for 60 more?

I saw a player I respect fold for $139 on the river on a $13K pot. I'm sure it was a correct fold. If you have the odds to draw and miss, leaving you with no hand, and someone throws their last $139 in, why waste the money? For example, say you have the flush draw and OESD with a 3-5 on a 2-4-K board, and the other player, who is very tight, played as if he had AK all the way, if you miss, do you call hoping your 5-high will hold up? (Hint: how could it?) More likely it was a terrible bluff attempt, and had the sense to give up on it when it was picked off.

[Royal_Tour 0]

Its not a chip dump.a chip dump is something planned It would go like thisplayer A raise preflopplayer B callhopefully no other players in the hand***Player A bet large,Player B push.player A fold.thats a chip dump.This is 1 guy trying to bluff, but doesnt want to show his hand

[Jam-Fly 8]

It has to be more +EV than an open farrell, thats for sure

[doox 15]

btw, nice brag post

Nah, I just said final table - I never mentioned that I finished in 6th and took down a whopping 3 bucks! Back to the guy's hand, he later claimed he folded K4. I'd still think 60 extra chips would be worth calling off, with his stack. King-high has a long-shot chance of being good at best, but surely 60 chips is worth an info call?

[finztotheleft 0]

More likely it was a terrible bluff attempt, and had the sense to give up on it when it was picked off.

[Money022 0]

That's really suspicious but it COULD have been a misclick.

FYP...at least that's what I'm thinking. Although if it was a misclick you know that player would have blown up in the chat box. If that happened then this thread wouldn't have been started as the OP would have had his answer.