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[Naismith]

HangukMiguk, on Saturday, June 2nd, 2007, 8:35 AM, said:

I will not own a suit for a long time. I will not do anything that sacrifices comfort when I could still have both style and comfort. Eventually I'll need one, but I'm honestly in no hurry to need one.

I've survived in my career without one. Why ruin a good thing? :)Also, all of my clothes combined didn't cost 400 dollars.

[WowThats]

It all a matter of personal experience when setting daily goals. I understand that some think you have to ride winning session for as long as possible to maximize, its a valid point. My point is unless you have ten's of years of experience how do you know when session is over? You get a feeling? All your chips are gone? A tremor in force? If I get down to $1500 I am out of here? I can win it back! As soon as I get back to $XX-XX I am out of here!We have never been able to figure out if its the player or the seat that is hot. Some days you will see a hot player, as soon as s/he leaves the seat goes cold. Some days its the seat that is hot, Skill level makes no difference its who sitting there. Wish I knew the answer.Some may disagree with this statement, this is my personal opinion: Poker is a game of decisions. The more good decisions you make the more you deposit into you bank. The bad decisions you make are rationalized by claiming they were bad beats and in a percentage of the time it is true bad beat. I saw this yesterday: Player 1 - AA, player 2 -98 Flop 2-9-9, turn A, River 9 I had tossed A-3 suited UTG. I shook my head and was thankful I made a good decision.I have found the more aggressive I play the more beatings I take. I also know when playing premium hands the beatings still happen, therefore, I have now adopted the following statement: People will call you with anything, because they have more money than brains. I know many of you will say "where is that table"? You can have it. I'll watch you win a few and lose a few.

[Spence]

WowThats, on Saturday, June 2nd, 2007, 9:16 AM, said:

It all a matter of personal experience when setting daily goals. I understand that some think you have to ride winning session for as long as possible to maximize, its a valid point. My point is unless you have ten's of years of experience how do you know when session is over? You get a feeling? All your chips are gone? A tremor in force? If I get down to $1500 I am out of here? I can win it back! As soon as I get back to $XX-XX I am out of here!We have never been able to figure out if its the player or the seat that is hot. Some days you will see a hot player, as soon as s/he leaves the seat goes cold. Some days its the seat that is hot, Skill level makes no difference its who sitting there. Wish I knew the answer.Some may disagree with this statement, this is my personal opinion: Poker is a game of decisions. The more good decisions you make the more you deposit into you bank. The bad decisions you make are rationalized by claiming they were bad beats and in a percentage of the time it is true bad beat. I saw this yesterday: Player 1 - AA, player 2 -98 Flop 2-9-9, turn A, River 9 I had tossed A-3 suited UTG. I shook my head and was thankful I made a good decision.I have found the more aggressive I play the more beatings I take. I also know when playing premium hands the beatings still happen, therefore, I have now adopted the following statement: People will call you with anything, because they have more money than brains. I know many of you will say "where is that table"? You can have it. I'll watch you win a few and lose a few.

You're joking right? Please say you are.

[Zach6668]

So.... yeah.... no offense, but you have a severe theoretical misconception about poker, and gambling in general.

[WowThats]

Which are?

[Zach6668]

WowThats, on Saturday, June 2nd, 2007, 1:28 PM, said:

Which are?

It's a long run session. If you continue to play your A game, or are playing well, etc, then it doesn't matter how you do on a session by session basis. If you want to leave when you get to a certain dollar amount, that's fine, if you want to play a certain amount of time, that's fine. It doesn't matter though. As long as you're playing the same game (read: not tilting, steaming, etc), it doesn't matter if you play one round, sit out for an hour, play another round, sit out, etc, say 5 times; it would be the same as sitting for 5 consecutive rounds. Extend that to playing 100 hands in one day, for each day for a week, it's the same as playing 50,50,200,100,100,25,175 hands over 7 days. It's a long run game. I think I explained this very poorly, but I think there's too much to even scratch the surface.I would recommend reading Theory of Poker.

[Balloon guy]

WowThats, on Saturday, June 2nd, 2007, 8:02 AM, said:

I would rather own several $200 to $400 suits because that is who I am, versus pretending to be something or someone that I am not who owns one $2000 suit.

It's awesome that you think a $2000 suit is impressive. copyright Ron Mexico inc. All rights reserved

[GaYeled]

I almost said yes in the poll, but then I realized it'd be a lie because I'm not in vegas. I think that playing live, with only 10k for a BR is going to be a big long grind. I'm assuming you'll be playing 200NL and you'd get in 30 hands per hour if you're lucky. If you play for 40 hours per week, thats only 12000 hands. Online, you could get that many hands about 16x as fast if you 4 table 8 hours a day. Let's assume you're incrdible and can sustain 15bb/100 hands...that means $60/100 hands, or about $18/hour. That's not even that much.I wish you luck but think that you might want to grind a 40k BR plus one years' of expenses and be playing 600NL and 1000NL live to make it worthwhile and not to make it feel like such a grind.

[Ron_Mexico]

WowThats, on Saturday, June 2nd, 2007, 11:02 AM, said:

AA will lose to KK as many times as it will win.I would rather own several $200 to $400 suits because that is who I am, versus pretending to be something or someone that I am not who owns one $2000 suit.

I'm no numbers guy, but I'm not sure that first statement is correct.and there is nothing wrong with $400 suits, I probably have 3 or 4 myself. I just like messing with FWP ever since he got on AIM, found my screen name, tried to berate me and insult me for making gay jokes on the internet, thinking he knows me. It's kind of become a hobby in my spare time. He's douchey, and kind of comical in a "I'm laughing at you" sort of way.

Balloon guy, on Saturday, June 2nd, 2007, 7:43 PM, said:

It's awesome that you think a $2000 suit is impressive. copyright Ron Mexico inc. All rights reserved

thank you sir. Residuals waived. This time.

[rgold79]

HangukMiguk, on Saturday, June 2nd, 2007, 12:35 PM, said:

I will not own a suit for a long time. I will not do anything that sacrifices comfort when I could still have both style and comfort. Eventually I'll need one, but I'm honestly in no hurry to need one.

A well tailored suit is super duper comfortable. Cheap suits are cheap because they're not tailored to your body. But man, a crisp cotton shirt and comfortable suit that breathes... FTW.

[JesseW316]

FoxwoodsPro, on Saturday, June 2nd, 2007, 12:22 AM, said:

a 400 dollar suit

rgold79, on Saturday, June 2nd, 2007, 7:15 PM, said:

A well tailored suit is super duper comfortable. Cheap suits are cheap because they're not tailored to your body. But man, a crisp cotton shirt and comfortable suit that breathes... FTW.

ftwjust do what makes you happy, whatever it is

[SpiderGuard]

I mean this in all sincerity - FWP, do you think you can handle Vegas? If you have a drinking problem (and an addictive personality in general) Vegas perhaps isn't the best place in the world for you to be.

[GrinderMJ]

FWP here are my thoughts about you.First, you really need to quit drinking like all the time. Every young person I know drinks a fair amount but you seem to be a straight up alcoholic. You will never be successful in poker if you have a serious drinking problem, it's just not possible. You also need to quit having delusions of grandeur and harping on the past about what your roll could be or should be. Just focus on the fact that your roll is not big, you are not a perfect player and the only way to improve in both of those areas is to grind low limits for a while. Do nothing but play nonstop and get hand advice and help from people who you feel are better than you. Poker is not an easy game, and I doubt moving near Foxwoods will make you a better player. Get a ton of hands in online, quit being drunk all the time, and work your way up from there.

[msals11]

don't think you have enough experience to go play pro full time yet, grind it out online and stop drinking

[NocturnalRob]

rgold79, on Saturday, June 2nd, 2007, 10:15 PM, said:

A well tailored suit is super duper comfortable. Cheap suits are cheap because they're not tailored to your body. But man, a crisp cotton shirt and comfortable suit that breathes... FTW.

i don't think this is the main point of the thread, but i wanted to comment-- i own 8 suits that cost between $300 and $1800. i like clothes, so i don't mind spending money on things that i will own for more than 5 years. that being said, a well-tailored $300 suit can look just as good as a poorly fitted $2000 suit. it all depends on the material.also, copious amounts of alcohol + poker are -ev in the long run. always.

[Money022]

WowThats, on Saturday, June 2nd, 2007, 12:28 PM, said:

Which are?

Say you've been at a table that's full of people giving their money away and you're playing your A game. Two hours into the session you've hit your daily goal. You're not tired, everything is going your way, and the fish have just reloaded putting hundreds of dollars of dead money out there to be collected. Tell me again why you'd walk away from this table?

[WowThats]

Balloon guy, on Saturday, June 2nd, 2007, 7:43 PM, said:

It's awesome that you think a $2000 suit is impressive. copyright Ron Mexico inc. All rights reserved

Not to be aggressive Ballon Guy I really think you and the others need to read why I posted that sentence.

[theresa113]

Naismith, on Saturday, June 2nd, 2007, 1:01 PM, said:

I've survived in my career without one. Why ruin a good thing? :)Also, all of my clothes combined didn't cost 400 dollars.

No offense, but how is your love life?Anyway... nothing is sexier than a man in a expensive well tailored suit. My knees get so weak that I collapse down onto the floor and while on my knees, I take orders from said man in the well dressed suit.

[WowThats]

Zach6668, on Saturday, June 2nd, 2007, 1:33 PM, said:

It's a long run session. If you continue to play your A game, or are playing well, etc, then it doesn't matter how you do on a session by session basis. If you want to leave when you get to a certain dollar amount, that's fine, if you want to play a certain amount of time, that's fine. It doesn't matter though. As long as you're playing the same game (read: not tilting, steaming, etc), it doesn't matter if you play one round, sit out for an hour, play another round, sit out, etc, say 5 times; it would be the same as sitting for 5 consecutive rounds. Extend that to playing 100 hands in one day, for each day for a week, it's the same as playing 50,50,200,100,100,25,175 hands over 7 days. It's a long run game. I think I explained this very poorly, but I think there's too much to even scratch the surface.I would recommend reading Theory of Poker.

Money022, on Saturday, June 2nd, 2007, 11:35 PM, said:

Say you've been at a table that's full of people giving their money away and you're playing your A game. Two hours into the session you've hit your daily goal. You're not tired, everything is going your way, and the fish have just reloaded putting hundreds of dollars of dead money out there to be collected. Tell me again why you'd walk away from this table?

I believe we may all be somewhat on the same page, just saying it different.First, there is NO WAY to consistently play your "A" game, professional poker players, Drivers, Athletics can't do it and openly admit it. My statements are based on my personal experience. In the long run of a session I know at some point I am going to get beat or make a mistake. Once I make the amount for my session I prefer to leave "I can always come back". According to many of you the seat does not play any role in your session as long as you are playing your "A" game... Okay, I agree with you. When I am seated at a table where players are giving their money away it is difficult to walk away. The longer you sit there, one or more of the players at the table "luck will change". They don't have to be a average player or a good player. This is why I prefer to take my winnings and leave. This is my experience, you have different opinion, I respect each of your positions, experience.

[gatortom64]

theresa113, on Sunday, June 3rd, 2007, 12:12 PM, said:

No offense, but how is your love life?Anyway... nothing is sexier than a man in a expensive well tailored suit. My knees get so weak that I collapse down onto the floor and while on my knees, I take orders from said man in the well dressed suit.

Memo: Buy nice suit IMMEDIATELY!!!!!