Actuary 3 Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 tough table, or more correctly, tough nite of hands compared to getting hit with the deck lately.Villain: 10/9/5 100 hands same villain I attempted a c.r against when I hit the flush..a few hands agoPokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)Preflop: Actuary is BB with , . 4 folds, MP3 raises, 3 folds, Actuary 3-bets, MP3 calls.Flop: (6.50 SB) , , (2 players)Actuary bets, MP3 raises, Actuary calls.Turn: (5.25 BB) (2 players)Actuary checks, MP3 bets, Actuary raises Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 I'm ok with it.I really have this fear of scary cards when I play. I hate the idea of a J or Q coming off on the turn, or another T even. So anytime I get to a decision about waiting for the turn, I ask myself what I'll do on a scary turn, and if I really don't know, then I'm just putting money in on the flop when I know I'm ahead. I do this a lot, so I end up just jamming the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
Frez 0 Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 First I was wondering why you didn't 3 bet the flop.Then I was thinking that's OK if you're sure you can get in a turn check-raise, but that's chancing it a little.Then I read Zach's comment and I agree, that the T out there changes the complexion of the hand. Any non broadway card leaves room to play it a little tricky (as you seem to have). So now I'm back to wondering why not 3 bet the flop? Make the gutshots pay. Link to post Share on other sites
Shimmering Wang 1 Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 First I was wondering why you didn't 3 bet the flop.Then I was thinking that's OK if you're sure you can get in a turn check-raise, but that's chancing it a little.Then I read Zach's comment and I agree, that the T out there changes the complexion of the hand. Any non broadway card leaves room to play it a little tricky (as you seem to have). So now I'm back to wondering why not 3 bet the flop? Make the gutshots pay. This is a board where your opponent seems to want to go to war, Actuary. He raised it up from MP, you 3-bet him from the big- a line many players read as relatively strong- lead an all-broadway paint, and he puts a raise in on you. He knows you like your hand, but he still likes his (or wants you to think he does). In situations like this, like everyone else has mentioned, there are action killing cards that can roll right off the deck, and shut your opponent down. What're you planning to do if one of the queens or jacks rolls off? Because it might just go check/check a good portion of the time. Or do you lead out? Then if you get raised? Are you STILL planning on check-raising? He wants money going in, let's let him get as much money in on the flop as he can. Might not stay the same for awhile. 3-bet the flop. His hand is obviously pretty strong, so you can STILL probably even try to get a check/raise in on the turn AFTER the three-bet, if you're really dead-set on it.So, in short, I agree- in theory- with some of the analysis forwarded so far. Except I'm pretty sure that by check/raising the turn you're charging the gutshots the absolute maximum... Wang Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted May 28, 2007 Author Share Posted May 28, 2007 this is my line 30% of the timeMore so against super aggressive playersI was leading Ace and paint cards Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 my only concern is that he might be so aggressive that we make more money by 3-betting the flop than c/r the turn. Link to post Share on other sites
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