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if you had 6 months of living expenses and a 15k BR would you move to vegas?

  1. Yes (32 votes [42.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 42.67%

  2. No (23 votes [30.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.67%

  3. I'd just play online (20 votes [26.67%])

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#81 Balloon guy

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 11:28 AM

View PostScanner313, on Monday, June 4th, 2007, 7:27 AM, said:

How so? Maybe I'm missing your point, but I can assure you that alcohol has no leash on me.
Stay in front of it and you can, let it control you and you will not get control back.The question for this thread is: Does alcohol control FWP?Oh and what is Wow thinking? Everyeon knows it's not hot seats or hot person...It's HOT CARDS
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Every single person (except Bob) has posted things in this thread that would qualify as a hate crime in any other first-world country in the world.

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 11:43 AM

View PostBalloon guy, on Monday, June 4th, 2007, 11:28 AM, said:

Stay in front of it and you can, let it control you and you will not get control back.The question for this thread is: Does alcohol control FWP?Oh and what is Wow thinking? Everyeon knows it's not hot seats or hot person...It's HOT CARDS
A little bit :club: I can't really imagine not drinking everyday. I get drunk honestly roughly 340-350 days a year (not a brag j/s), But I no longer drink and drive so playing live > playing online for me. And I am good enough to play poker for a living since I supported myself solely on poker earnings for 3 years until alcohol induced actions severely crippled my roll. I know I am sometimes a clown on this site and you may not get the impression of how sserious I am about this game. Not to sound to lame but I've read HOH 1-3, SS1 and 2, Book of Tells and Ace on the River. I read about poker and poker strat most of my free time. I talk about hands with people I feel are atleast my equal in the game. I have all the confidence in the world in my game and I am just chomping at the bits to make another run at this. Even if it means selling my house.
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Posted 04 June 2007 - 12:34 PM

View PostFoxwoodsPro, on Monday, June 4th, 2007, 11:43 AM, said:

I can't really imagine not drinking everyday. I get drunk honestly roughly 340-350 days a year (not a brag j/s), But I no longer drink and drive so ...
You are NOT ready my friend. This game and that town are going to eat you alive. Just because you don't drink and drive doesn't change things.You have a drinking problem.Having a drinking problem is NOT compatible with being a professional gambler.

View PostFoxwoodsPro, on Monday, June 4th, 2007, 11:43 AM, said:

I've read HOH 1-3, SS1 and 2, Book of Tells and Ace on the River. I read about poker and poker strat most of my free time. I talk about hands with people I feel are atleast my equal in the game. I have all the confidence in the world in my game and I am just chomping at the bits to make another run at this. Even if it means selling my house.
Do you cover the hole cards when you watch the players on TV too?Seriously, these are not qualifications for "turning pro". You made a comment earlier about playing $1/$2 NL games. Not to sound like a "hater" but you are just simply not there my friend.

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 12:40 PM

View PostPot Odds RAC, on Monday, June 4th, 2007, 12:34 PM, said:

You are NOT ready my friend. This game and that town are going to eat you alive. Just because you don't drink and drive doesn't change things.You have a drinking problem.Having a drinking problem is NOT compatible with being a professional gambler.Do you cover the hole cards when you watch the players on TV too?Seriously, these are not qualifications for "turning pro". You made a comment earlier about playing $1/$2 NL games. Not to sound like a "hater" but you just simply are just simply not there my friend.
Lol I didn't list them as qualifications just to point out i'm not a recreational player1/2 NL 300 Max is very profitable and should cover my expenses which if I sell my house will be covered for around 6 months..I used Vegas for poll purposes I will or would be playing at FoxwoodsWhat do you base your opinion on that I'm not ready?Ya I'd start at 1/2 300 max like I said but I have played 2-4 NL regularly as a winning player, and also logged in hands at 3-6 to 10-20. I'm just trying to put together a solid gameplan.
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Posted 04 June 2007 - 01:03 PM

I cant imagine it being worhtwhile playing below 30/60 or 5/10NL. Unless you suck balls, you can average more an hour online multi tabling 3/6 limit than you can playing even playing 15/30 live, with a lot less risk.

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 01:24 PM

View PostFoxwoodsPro, on Monday, June 4th, 2007, 12:40 PM, said:

Lol I didn't list them as qualifications just to point out i'm not a recreational player1/2 NL 300 Max is very profitable and should cover my expenses which if I sell my house will be covered for around 6 months..I used Vegas for poll purposes I will or would be playing at FoxwoodsWhat do you base your opinion on that I'm not ready?Ya I'd start at 1/2 300 max like I said but I have played 2-4 NL regularly as a winning player, and also logged in hands at 3-6 to 10-20. I'm just trying to put together a solid gameplan.
I am sincerely not trying to flame you nor start anything, just giving one guy's observations - this and a $2 Big Blind will get you a cup of Starbucks CoffeeBased on your posts in this and other threads, you just don't seem to have the maturity to be able to focus and control yourself for the long periods of time required to be a long term professional poker player. In general you seem to have a certain naiveté about you. Several things (some little - some not so little) lead me to believe this: - the suit comment - that you think a drinking problem is just drinking and driving (because that is what you experienced - that was the only DIRECT FINANCIAL IMPACT - that was the extent of your perception of your "problem"). - $1/$2 NL being a big enough game to support you - frankly it isn't going to be long term profitable to support any sort of "reasonable" adult lifestyle. Furthermore if your usual comfortable limit is $1/$2 then you just are not ready for the Big Show. - your "qualifications" for being dedicated and ready (You did list those qualities as an indication of your readiness). But really the trump card is you have a self described drinking problem. You don't even seem to acknowledge that drinking EVERY day with 340 days per year of being drunk is a problem. It is.There is no way a problem drinker should be pursuing a "career" as a professional gambler.That, to me, is the end of the story.

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 02:21 PM

View PostPot Odds RAC, on Monday, June 4th, 2007, 1:24 PM, said:

I am sincerely not trying to flame you nor start anything, just giving one guy's observations - this and a $2 Big Blind will get you a cup of Starbucks CoffeeBased on your posts in this and other threads, you just don't seem to have the maturity to be able to focus and control yourself for the long periods of time required to be a long term professional poker player. In general you seem to have a certain naiveté about you. Several things (some little - some not so little) lead me to believe this: - the suit comment - that you think a drinking problem is just drinking and driving (because that is what you experienced - that was the only DIRECT FINANCIAL IMPACT - that was the extent of your perception of your "problem"). - $1/$2 NL being a big enough game to support you - frankly it isn't going to be long term profitable to support any sort of "reasonable" adult lifestyle. Furthermore if your usual comfortable limit is $1/$2 then you just are not ready for the Big Show. - your "qualifications" for being dedicated and ready (You did list those qualities as an indication of your readiness). But really the trump card is you have a self described drinking problem. You don't even seem to acknowledge that drinking EVERY day with 340 days per year of being drunk is a problem. It is.There is no way a problem drinker should be pursuing a "career" as a professional gambler.That, to me, is the end of the story.
K I will respond to many of your points1- my suits look nice lol2- lol at you looking at 2 dollars as a coffee instead of thinking at a 1-2 300 max table there is usually 3- 4k at the table atleast3- lol at you thinking you know my comfort level, in general I play 1-2 and 2-4 NL but have played many hours at 3-6 to 10-20 NL, as far as MTTs im used to 10-200 MTT's, but Ive played a 1k tourney and FTd it COMFORTABLY4- If i logged 40 hours a week at 1-2 NL which is what I would start at with a 10k roll, game is pretty soft lets say I play 5 days a week and double up once a day thats 1500 a week, do you make that? I'm pretty sick at pokah so 1k a week is on the small end, ive made that in 8 hours more than a FEW times 5- my drinking problem is due to about 100 crazy @ss fing things that have happened, drinking is not optimal but I got alot of sh1t to deal with. I dont apoligize or ask for sympathy I'm just living MY life..alot of people on this site know a lot more about me(my usual stakes, how good I am, and personal experieces) than yourself and you are speaking a little too much matter of factly
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Posted 04 June 2007 - 03:08 PM

View PostWowThats, on Monday, June 4th, 2007, 3:02 PM, said:

I read your blog you are a micro limit player... it's called luck, every gambler needs it.
First of all, 3/6-10/20 LHE is not micro limits.Second of all, you don't understand poker, and the long run implications of probability theory. In the long run, luck simply does not exist.It boggles my mind that myself, and several other smart posters have explained this to you in this thread, and you come back to the same thing time after time.
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Posted 04 June 2007 - 03:20 PM

I'm not sure why moving to Vegas represents anythings significant. I love visiting but I couldn't live there permanently and keep my sanity. My preference would definitely be to live in LA and then drive to Vegas on weekends or WSOP time.I'd say drinking makes the road to success THAT much more difficult but there are a few pros that are known to drink at the table (e.g. Men). The problem isn't usually the winning at poker but winning at life and the spending away from the table.


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Posted 04 June 2007 - 04:06 PM

Again, this is not meant to be a "flame" war, just my POV...

View PostFoxwoodsPro, on Monday, June 4th, 2007, 2:21 PM, said:

2- lol at you looking at 2 dollars as a coffee instead of thinking at a 1-2 300 max table there is usually 3- 4k at the table atleast
Huh?Are you drunk right now?

View PostFoxwoodsPro, on Monday, June 4th, 2007, 2:21 PM, said:

3- lol at you thinking you know my comfort level, in general I play 1-2 and 2-4 NL but have played many hours at 3-6 to 10-20 NL, as far as MTTs im used to 10-200 MTT's, but Ive played a 1k tourney and FTd it COMFORTABLY
Uh huh... and lost your roll in the process.So all of the 4.40 threads and scratching up $200 bucks to play on line are just the exception?

View PostFoxwoodsPro, on Monday, June 4th, 2007, 2:21 PM, said:

4- If i logged 40 hours a week at 1-2 NL which is what I would start at with a 10k roll, game is pretty soft lets say I play 5 days a week and double up once a day thats 1500 a week, do you make that? I'm pretty sick at pokah so 1k a week is on the small end, ive made that in 8 hours more than a FEW times
So, 1/2 IS your comfort level.I make much more than that. What about the days you lose 5 buy ins? Or the Days you barely break even? Or the days you don't feel like playing? Or you're too drunk to play?A marginal $1/$2 NL player is not gonna be making $1K a month - as if $1K a month is that wonderful to begin

View PostFoxwoodsPro, on Monday, June 4th, 2007, 2:21 PM, said:

5- my drinking problem is due to about 100 crazy @ss fing things that have happened, drinking is not optimal but I got alot of sh1t to deal with. I dont apoligize or ask for sympathy I'm just living MY life..alot of people on this site know a lot more about me(my usual stakes, how good I am, and personal experieces) than yourself and you are speaking a little too much matter of factly
I am quite aware of your reputation on this site. Are you?...or are you in as much denial about that as you are about your poker skills and drinking?Do what I just did. Click on your "nick name" and look at your Topics. Look at the content of the most recent two pages of topics. How many were made while drunk? How many have been closed? How many have positive replies to you? If you didn't know who FWP was, what would be your opinion of FWP?I really don't think your explanation of "why" you drink does anything to convince me of anything other than you have even more of a problem that you care to admit. Frankly, you sounde like a classic problem drinker.Yes, I have experience that allows me to make this statement.Finally there is this - you be the judge of whether the poster is mature and sober enough to be a successful professional gambler:"So I go out with the boys last night to celebrate some more winnings. Play a lil pool, get a lil food, get a lot of Long Island Iced teas. Then I get to go have sex with this girl im seeing. But on my way I hit a police cruiser who has his lights on and get a DUI. Has to be one of the dumbest things a human being can do. Already got license revoked for atleast a month. I guess ill be logging major internet poker hours. Flaming of course will ensue, but anybody know how much this will cost me."

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 05:12 PM

View Postfleung22, on Monday, June 4th, 2007, 4:20 PM, said:

I'm not sure why moving to Vegas represents anythings significant. I love visiting but I couldn't live there permanently and keep my sanity. My preference would definitely be to live in LA and then drive to Vegas on weekends or WSOP time.
There are a couple of positives to Vegas over LA, especially from FWP's point of view. The first is that the casinos in Vegas aren't located in towns like Inglewood, Gardena, Commerce, etc. The second is that Vegas is open all night, while last call in LA is around 1:30am at most places.

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I'd say drinking makes the road to success THAT much more difficult but there are a few pros that are known to drink at the table (e.g. Men). The problem isn't usually the winning at poker but winning at life and the spending away from the table.
You're pretty spot-on there. My point #2 could be conceived as a bonus to the OP, and a huge caution to others who use his previous behavior as an example.
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