outsider13 0 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I was having a discussion with some other people today and we were reviewing hand histories and stats. We came across some of my stats on 5nl which were abnormally good. So my question is, do you think that one could turn pro 1 tabling 5nl? My guess is they can.Here are some of my stats - Basically I'm winning at 1583.16bb/100 and I think people are just trying to hand me their money. Here are some hands...https://www.pokertableratings.com/replayer/...hash=9037069937https://www.pokertableratings.com/replayer/...hash=9036908104I think both hands show that these donks are just bluffing their chips away and a player like me can keep this winrate up because I really am awesome.Can somebody here please give me a good reason not to quit my job and 1 table 5nl? Link to post Share on other sites
custom36 4 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Can somebody here please give me a good reason not to quit my job and 1 table 5nl?Given the mountain of evidence you've turned in, I think you should've made this decision much sooner. I don't know why you're even asking. Turn pro, make millions. Link to post Share on other sites
JSpencer 0 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I was having a discussion with some other people today and we were reviewing hand histories and stats. We came across some of my stats on 5nl which were abnormally good. So my question is, do you think that one could turn pro 1 tabling 5nl? My guess is they can.Here are some of my stats - Basically I'm winning at 1583.16bb/100 and I think people are just trying to hand me their money. Here are some hands...https://www.pokertableratings.com/replayer/...hash=9037069937https://www.pokertableratings.com/replayer/...hash=9036908104I think both hands show that these donks are just bluffing their chips away and a player like me can keep this winrate up because I really am awesome.Can somebody here please give me a good reason not to quit my job and 1 table 5nl?No one in there right mind should ever quit their job to play .02/.05 professionally. I'm assuming this thread is a joke? Link to post Share on other sites
HighwayStar 8 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Looks like you practice good table selection. Link to post Share on other sites
TrueAce13 18 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 100% tp/mmthe play at $5nl is the same as like $200nl...i know a lot of people who beat both those limits! Link to post Share on other sites
king1305 0 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 No one in there right mind should ever quit their job to play .02/.05 professionally. I'm assuming this thread is a joke?100% serious. Link to post Share on other sites
outsider13 0 Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 No one in there right mind should ever quit their job to play .02/.05 professionally. I'm assuming this thread is a joke?Did you see how they were handing their money away. There's more HH too!https://www.pokertableratings.com/replayer/...hash=9036870680You see how these guys are overplaying their holdings? Its so easy!! Link to post Share on other sites
kobe2odom8 14 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 jeff, wait until our raptors bet is completed. Then decided if it is time to go pro Link to post Share on other sites
JSpencer 0 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Did you see how they were handing their money away. There's more HH too!https://www.pokertableratings.com/replayer/...hash=9036870680You see how these guys are overplaying their holdings? Its so easy!!Funny thing is, half of that website is ran by me. Link to post Share on other sites
kobe2odom8 14 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 No one in there right mind should ever quit their job to play .02/.05 professionally. I'm assuming this thread is a joke?y not? Live the dream baby Link to post Share on other sites
FARGOpokerND 22 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 No one in there right mind should ever quit their job to play .02/.05 professionally. I'm assuming this thread is a joke?^ ^ ^ ^There is NO place for silly logic like this in this thread of awesome. Link to post Share on other sites
JSpencer 0 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 ^ ^ ^ ^There is NO place for silly logic like this in this thread of awesome.There is always a place for silly logic. Link to post Share on other sites
Shark527 0 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Maybe I should quit mulit tabling the $5 and I'd make dozens more dollars. I'm finally seeing the light, this is the kind of advice I was hoping for joining this site those years ago. Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I've got like 6.54 on Stars.I think I know what I'm gonna be doing for the next 20 years! Link to post Share on other sites
outsider13 0 Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 Let's share the dream together boys. I'm probably going to play some tonight after I drink a bit more. Link to post Share on other sites
HighwayStar 8 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Dear superjeff13,you are a ****ing moronbetting kk into trup qq- HighwayStar, Esquire Link to post Share on other sites
El Guapo 8 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 The only reason I like Jeff is because of Shannon Elizabeth. Link to post Share on other sites
donk4life 34 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Outsider13, I think you're running into a problem that a lot of microstakes grinders fall into: Ego. Yes, you've beat the game at an incredibly high rate, but that certainly is not going to last, sooner or later you're going to hit a bad run of cards, and then posting bad beats in the BBF and calling the other players mother ****ing ******* cunts. Plus, there are some extreme flaws in your game. With the 34 hand, what are you trying to accomplish by calling those preflop raises? I understand that you have unsuited connectors therefore you have a higher chance of hitting straights and flushes, but when you are that deep and people are 3,4, and even 5 betting, they will more than likely have what Phil Hellmuth calls, "the top 10 percent of hands". You don't fare very well against aces or kings here, but if you put the opponents on drawing hands like AK or J10 then I guess you're call is okay because you're playing deep. But when you the donkbet that flop, get raised, and then get reraised, I don't think you're getting the right price to call. Perhaps you had a read that were jamming with hands like AK or AQ, therefore you had many more outs. I don't know, I just don't see how that's a good play in the long run. On the 53hh hand, I don't know why you're 3 betting this hand preflop. I understand that you are on the button and like to play what the pros call "position poker", but this is not the hand to do it with. You only have 1 opportunity for a flush and your cards aren't even connected. The rest of the hand you played well though, I really like your flop call with the intention of bluffing the turn and river. Plus, there's a small chance you still have the best hand. Players have a tendency to make large bluffs at 5NL which makes your river call extremely justified.I also you think you need to table select better, while although trueace13 is a huge microstakes fish that gets extremely lucky, players like tbrick412, seat3ismine, and kobe2odom8 make their living playing the microstakes, why do you think they're so deep?I know I'm rambling a bit but I just don't want you to get discouraged when you hit a bad run of cards, because even Daniel Negranu goes through them. Watch the old episodes of highstakes poker when he gets unlucky in so many hands, luckily he's turned it around and is once again at the top of his game. I really wish you the best of luck in your endeavor, and I hope you continue to kill the microstakes, I just want you to be weary that downswings do occur in the poker world, and I hope you're prepared for them. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 Dear Outsider,I am not good at pokeher so I can offer no advice, but I want to wish you luck.I would like to point out that the 1583.16 bb/100 win rate you referenced is in fact 1583.16 PTBB/100, which is far more amazing and I would see no reason to return to work on Monday.Please start a blog, similar to tom dwan or daniel negraeneu so we may follow your progress.JamesIn before aussie phil, bc he's a life fish who probably has a similar win rate with a "-" in front of it Link to post Share on other sites
kobe2odom8 14 Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 jealousy itt Link to post Share on other sites
outsider13 0 Posted September 11, 2010 Author Share Posted September 11, 2010 blah blah blah...Ya, whatever. Haters gonna hate. Link to post Share on other sites
FARGOpokerND 22 Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 Outsider13, I think you're running into a problem that a lot of microstakes grinders fall into: Ego. Yes, you've beat the game at an incredibly high rate, but that certainly is not going to last, sooner or later you're going to hit a bad run of cards, and then posting bad beats in the BBF and calling the other players mother ****ing ******* cunts. Plus, there are some extreme flaws in your game. With the 34 hand, what are you trying to accomplish by calling those preflop raises? I understand that you have unsuited connectors therefore you have a higher chance of hitting straights and flushes, but when you are that deep and people are 3,4, and even 5 betting, they will more than likely have what Phil Hellmuth calls, "the top 10 percent of hands". You don't fare very well against aces or kings here, but if you put the opponents on drawing hands like AK or J10 then I guess you're call is okay because you're playing deep. But when you the donkbet that flop, get raised, and then get reraised, I don't think you're getting the right price to call. Perhaps you had a read that were jamming with hands like AK or AQ, therefore you had many more outs. I don't know, I just don't see how that's a good play in the long run. On the 53hh hand, I don't know why you're 3 betting this hand preflop. I understand that you are on the button and like to play what the pros call "position poker", but this is not the hand to do it with. You only have 1 opportunity for a flush and your cards aren't even connected. The rest of the hand you played well though, I really like your flop call with the intention of bluffing the turn and river. Plus, there's a small chance you still have the best hand. Players have a tendency to make large bluffs at 5NL which makes your river call extremely justified.I also you think you need to table select better, while although trueace13 is a huge microstakes fish that gets extremely lucky, players like tbrick412, seat3ismine, and kobe2odom8 make their living playing the microstakes, why do you think they're so deep?I know I'm rambling a bit but I just don't want you to get discouraged when you hit a bad run of cards, because even Daniel Negranu goes through them. Watch the old episodes of highstakes poker when he gets unlucky in so many hands, luckily he's turned it around and is once again at the top of his game. I really wish you the best of luck in your endeavor, and I hope you continue to kill the microstakes, I just want you to be weary that downswings do occur in the poker world, and I hope you're prepared for them.Is this a level? Link to post Share on other sites
JSpencer 0 Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 Is this a level?Best one I've seen in some time. Buy yes I'm fairly certain its a level. My name is Jeff this this thread is confusing Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 Outsider13, I think you're running into a problem that a lot of microstakes grinders fall into: Ego. Yes, you've beat the game at an incredibly high rate, but that certainly is not going to last, sooner or later you're going to hit a bad run of cards, and then posting bad beats in the BBF and calling the other players mother ****ing ******* cunts. Plus, there are some extreme flaws in your game. With the 34 hand, what are you trying to accomplish by calling those preflop raises? I understand that you have unsuited connectors therefore you have a higher chance of hitting straights and flushes, but when you are that deep and people are 3,4, and even 5 betting, they will more than likely have what Phil Hellmuth calls, "the top 10 percent of hands". You don't fare very well against aces or kings here, but if you put the opponents on drawing hands like AK or J10 then I guess you're call is okay because you're playing deep. But when you the donkbet that flop, get raised, and then get reraised, I don't think you're getting the right price to call. Perhaps you had a read that were jamming with hands like AK or AQ, therefore you had many more outs. I don't know, I just don't see how that's a good play in the long run. On the 53hh hand, I don't know why you're 3 betting this hand preflop. I understand that you are on the button and like to play what the pros call "position poker", but this is not the hand to do it with. You only have 1 opportunity for a flush and your cards aren't even connected. The rest of the hand you played well though, I really like your flop call with the intention of bluffing the turn and river. Plus, there's a small chance you still have the best hand. Players have a tendency to make large bluffs at 5NL which makes your river call extremely justified.I also you think you need to table select better, while although trueace13 is a huge microstakes fish that gets extremely lucky, players like tbrick412, seat3ismine, and kobe2odom8 make their living playing the microstakes, why do you think they're so deep?I know I'm rambling a bit but I just don't want you to get discouraged when you hit a bad run of cards, because even Daniel Negranu goes through them. Watch the old episodes of highstakes poker when he gets unlucky in so many hands, luckily he's turned it around and is once again at the top of his game. I really wish you the best of luck in your endeavor, and I hope you continue to kill the microstakes, I just want you to be weary that downswings do occur in the poker world, and I hope you're prepared for them.tl;dr Link to post Share on other sites
TrueAce13 18 Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 WOW THIS IS THE DONK WHO SUCKED OUT ON MY JJ?!?!?! ;lasdjf;lsdkafjads; HUFD!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
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