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[vonteego3]

brvheart, on Wednesday, January 28th, 2009, 10:44 PM, said:

I don't disagree. Their D has been lights out as well. (barring the 2nd half of the Philly game)

LOL what?

[brvheart]

vonteego3, on Thursday, January 29th, 2009, 9:43 PM, said:

LOL what?

I can only assume that you haven't watched any playoff games this year.

[vonteego3]

brvheart, on Friday, January 30th, 2009, 2:34 AM, said:

I can only assume that you haven't watched any playoff games this year.

Arizona's D was mediocre at best against a rookie QB. Then Delhomme found a handful of Arizona DB's wide open. Then they blew a huge lead at Philly, only to win because of the Offense. But it's reasonable to not include the most important half of their season so far.

[CaneBrain]

Too....many.....people....picking....Arizona. Confidence.....wavering.I reserve the right to change my pick before game time.

[brvheart]

vonteego3, on Friday, January 30th, 2009, 4:32 PM, said:

Arizona's D was mediocre at best against a rookie QB. Then Delhomme found a handful of Arizona DB's wide open. Then they blew a huge lead at Philly, only to win because of the Offense. But it's reasonable to not include the most important half of their season so far.

you say potatoe, I say potato.

CaneBrain, on Friday, January 30th, 2009, 9:35 PM, said:

Too....many.....people....picking....Arizona. Confidence.....wavering.I reserve the right to change my pick before game time.

Not too many... the line hasn't moved.

[Oziumrules]

CaneBrain, on Friday, January 30th, 2009, 10:35 PM, said:

Too....many.....people....picking....Arizona. Confidence.....wavering.I reserve the right to change my pick before game time.

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[CaneBrain]

I just bet 200 bucks on the Cards to cover (+7). Cop-out bet but whatever.

[Oziumrules]

My Super Bowl PredictionSteelers 23 Arizona 20

[Arsenic]

27-23 good ****en game

[brvheart]

CaneBrain, on Tuesday, January 27th, 2009, 10:41 PM, said:

Zona 23---Pitt 20

I bet you were buzzing with :55 left. Good prediction.

CaneBrain, on Sunday, February 1st, 2009, 10:26 AM, said:

I just bet 200 bucks on the Cards to cover (+7). Cop-out bet but whatever.

Nice score.

[brvheart]

vonteego3, on Thursday, January 29th, 2009, 9:43 PM, said:

LOL what?

vonteego3, on Friday, January 30th, 2009, 4:32 PM, said:

Arizona's D was mediocre at best against a rookie QB. Then Delhomme found a handful of Arizona DB's wide open. Then they blew a huge lead at Philly, only to win because of the Offense. But it's reasonable to not include the most important half of their season so far.

You still think AZ's D plays bad?

[XXEddie]

brvheart, on Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 1:07 AM, said:

You still think AZ's D plays bad?

Certainly not 'Lights Out'

[brvheart]

XXEddie, on Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 3:54 AM, said:

Certainly not 'Lights Out'

I disagree. They stopped Pittsburgh inside the 5 three different times.

[CaneBrain]

brvheart, on Sunday, February 1st, 2009, 8:51 PM, said:

I bet you were buzzing with :55 left. Good prediction.Nice score.

LOL. I was sitting there thinking....am I going to have FCP bragging rights? Then, I remembered that the Steelers have been scoring late all year and calmed down and sure enough Big Ben comes through again. Greedy greedy steelers. Share the Super Bowls!Thats why you bet on the cover not the moneyline.

[fryer98]

brvheart, on Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 5:16 AM, said:

I disagree. They stopped Pittsburgh inside the 5 three different times.

And they were the only team to do THAT this year.Dripping with sarcasm, fyi.

[brvheart]

fryer98, on Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 9:40 AM, said:

And they were the only team to do THAT this year.

I don't know what this means. Either you think that it's no big deal to stop a great running team 3 times inside the 5, or you think the Steelers are bad. Either way, I'm confused.

[dEv~]

brvheart, on Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 11:30 AM, said:

I don't know what this means. Either you think that it's no big deal to stop a great running team 3 times inside the 5, or you think the Steelers are bad. Either way, I'm confused.

The Steelers were not good this year on short yardage plays. Carey Davis and Gary Russell just aren't top notch players believe it or not.

[Oziumrules]

dEv~, on Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 11:47 AM, said:

The Steelers were not good this year on short yardage plays. Carey Davis and Gary Russell just aren't top notch players believe it or not.

I miss the Bus in short yardage.....

[king1305]

brvheart, on Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 11:30 AM, said:

I don't know what this means. Either you think that it's no big deal to stop a great running team 3 times inside the 5, or you think the Steelers are bad. Either way, I'm confused.

Who are you talking about?Surely not the Steelers. Not this season.

[fryer98]

brvheart, on Monday, February 2nd, 2009, 11:30 AM, said:

I don't know what this means. Either you think that it's no big deal to stop a great running team 3 times inside the 5, or you think the Steelers are bad. Either way, I'm confused.

The fact that you don't know what this means shows you know little about the Steelers this year and should probably take a knee on your Super Bowl talks.