Posted 24 April 2007 - 05:38 AM
*Inhales deeply to say everything that he has to say in one breath...*So, I get to work this morning and decide to read every post in this thread. Yeah, I got problems.I agree with Jordan, Naismith etc when they say that many of your posts make you look kind of like a calling station. We are not saying that you are a calling station, but almost every hand that you posted has you making some "big" call which the majority of the forum feels is questionable. They also correctly point out that in most of the posts, you happen to miraculously have the best hand when all logic would suggest that you were dead in the water.The point of posting here is to learn something. After posting this hand and seeing the responses, your only thought (and it's nice if you admit it out loud) should be that "holy crap, I played this hand horribly and I can't beleve that I had the best hand..." You ask people to assign the villain a range and they do, almost the entirety of which, you are very far behind. You need to assign him a range too. What range do you assign him? Surely 78o isn't in that preflop or flop range. How does it magically appear in his range on the turn? IMO, because of the bet size here (unless he views you as a calling station - man, I've called you that a few times in this post, hmm) then he's not gonna bet that big with AA or KK preflop. His range I think includes all pairs 22-QQ, AT+, KJ+ QJ+ and of course, a few random hands thrown in there. When he bets the flop, the most logical thing to do is discount most of the big card hands and big pair hands. When he bets the turn, I'm throwing out the low pairs that aren't sets and the big card hands that didn't pick up a flush draw. You're in bad shape against that range. Very bad shape.I understand how to play SH and HU NL and I know that aggressive players 3-bet light. If you want to be profitable, you have to do that to keep people guessing. That being said, people 3-bet when they have real hands as well. Just because you think he's "looking to make a stand" doesn't mean that he didn't pick up ATo here and make a stand with it. He reraised preflop, bet the pot on the flop and went all-in on the turn. You're not winning here any percentage of the time that will make it even remotely profitable. Asserting that his most likely hand is a draw is ridiculous. You're playing the results becuase you got to see in the end that he had nothing. The only draw on the flop was 45 and some gutshots and backdoor flush draws. This is a 6-handed table, so while players are 3-betting light, they have to have some standards because there are a number of people at the table. He also reraised OOP, which shows more strength. After he bets and you call on the flop, it has to be fairly likely that he puts you on an A, so if he's still pushing on the turn, almost all of the time, he's gonna have an A that he thinks is better than yours. His bet interval preflop and everything about his hand says he has 2 big cards or a small to medium pair in the hole. As for him overbetting the pot on the turn, it's not really a big deal. The only other reasonable bet he could make would be more than half of his stack anyway, and if he thinks you have Ax and won't fold (a reasonable assumption considering you're calling him down with 99) then he made an excellent bet becuase he knew you'd pay it off.So, what can we learn here?1. Don't post hands if you're not looking for advice (I say this because you gallantly disagree with EVERYONE here about your bad play, so you weren't looking to hear what they had to say IMO)2. Follow the rules of the forum. It appears Zach has a temper and might do bad things to you.3. Don't get so defensive. Everyone plays hands poorly. You played this hand like an amateur who didn't want to lay down their one pair hand. Everyone does it, just don't try to make it out to be some genius play on your part when it really isn't.