New York State Legalizes Gay Marriage

[timwakefield 68]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/25/nyregion...amp;_r=1&hp

ALBANY — Lawmakers voted late Friday to legalize same-sex marriage, making New York the largest state where gay and lesbian couples will be able to wed and giving the national gay-rights movement new momentum from the state where it was born.As the Senate debated the measure, supporters and opponents from around the state packed into two small galleries overlooking the chamber. When the final vote tally was read, the crowd screamed and hollered, began to chant “U.S.A.! U.S.A.!” — and to yell “thank you.” A minute or two later, when Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo entered the chamber, the crowd cheered again, rushing the edge of the galleries and chanting the governor’s name.Senate approval was the final hurdle for the legislation, which was strongly supported by Mr. Cuomo. The Assembly approved changes made by the Senate, after passing an earlier version last week. Mr. Cuomo signed the measure late Friday, and the law will go into effect in 30 days, meaning that same-sex couples could begin marrying in New York by midsummer. “I am very proud of New York and the statement we made to the nation today,” Mr. Cuomo said.The bill’s passage followed a daunting run of defeats in other states where voters barred same-sex marriage by legislative action, constitutional amendment or referendum. Just five states — Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Vermont — permit same-sex marriage. It is also legal in : the District of Columbia.The approval of same-sex marriage represented a reversal of fortune for gay-rights advocates in New York State, who just two years ago suffered a humiliating and unexpected defeat when a same-sex marriage bill was easily defeated in the Senate, which was then controlled by Democrats. This year, with the Senate controlled by Republicans, the odds against passage of same-sex marriage appeared long.But the unexpected victory had an unlikely champion: Mr. Cuomo, a Democrat who pledged last year to support same-sex marriage but whose early months in office were dominated by intense battles with lawmakers and some labor unions over spending cuts.Mr. Cuomo made same-sex marriage one of his top priorities for the year and deployed his top aide to coordinate the efforts of a half-dozen local gay-rights organizations whose feuding and disorganization had in part been blamed for the defeat two years ago. .ARTICLE CONTINUED AT LINK ABOVE”

[ShakeZuma 585]

first we allow people to eat pork, then we're not allowed to beat our slaves, and now this???

[BigDMcGee 3,352]

first we allow people to eat pork, then we're not allowed to beat our slaves, and now this???

This country has been going straight into the shitter ever since we passed women's suffrage.

[brvheart 1,752]

There should be a study on the affects gay marriage has on children or a society as a whole... paid for by a group that isn't religious or faggots.IF there is no ill-effect on children (other than outliers) THEN all marriages should be considered a personal issue and there should be no such thing as marriage according to the government.IF there IS ill-effect on children (other than outliers) THEN gay marriage should remain illegal.(I didn't vote in this poll. Because **** TimWakefield... amirite, Scram?*)*just kidding Tim.

[Balloon guy 158]

[colonel Feathers 5]

This country has been going straight into the shitter ever since we passed women's suffrage.

Is it just a coincidence that our worst prez was elected right after this passed. Altho he was awful good looking.

[brvheart 1,752]

Is it just a coincidence that our worst prez was elected right after this passed. Altho he was awful good looking.

FDR didn't get elected right after, and he wasn't particularly good-looking.

[LongLiveYorke 38]

IF there IS ill-effect on children (other than outliers) THEN gay marriage should remain illegal.

Should poor people not be allowed to get married?

[brvheart 1,752]

Should poor people not be allowed to get married?

I'm saying is that IF a study found that male/female relationships are good for society then the government should encourage that. IF they have no extra benefit, then marriage should be legally dissolved among everyone, regardless of income.

[LimbaughGod 0]

There should be a study on the affects gay marriage has on children or a society as a whole... paid for by a group that isn't religious or faggots.IF there is no ill-effect on children (other than outliers) THEN all marriages should be considered a personal issue and there should be no such thing as marriage according to the government.IF there IS ill-effect on children (other than outliers) THEN gay marriage should remain illegal.

I absolutely agree, though it isn't "politically correct".Back in my youth, when I was on fire for making the world a better place, I brought up the same objection to "negro" people being legally married to whites and asked about the societal effect of this. Of course the liberals accused me of being "racist".And yet here we are. Eminem... white kids wearing their pants around their ankles... mixed kids everywhere...It's really easy to see what happened when we didn't focus on looking at the numbers. And that's the biggest thing, whether the numbers bear out your "equal right". Disgusting homosexuals. Now America is declining.Not just that, but the white race is declining. According to the numbers, the white race will be gone by 2030.Not just that, but what made the US great, Jesus Christ, is also declining. My point is the liberals are going to defame you for your legitimate concern about fags and their effect on society. They did the same about negroes... look how that turned out.

[ahosang 0]

I absolutely agree, though it isn't "politically correct".Back in my youth, when I was on fire for making the world a better place, I brought up the same objection to "negro" people being legally married to whites and asked about the societal effect of this. Of course the liberals accused me of being "racist".And yet here we are. Eminem... white kids wearing their pants around their ankles... mixed kids everywhere...It's really easy to see what happened when we didn't focus on looking at the numbers. And that's the biggest thing, whether the numbers bear out your "equal right". Disgusting homosexuals. Now America is declining.Not just that, but the white race is declining. According to the numbers, the white race will be gone by 2030.Not just that, but what made the US great, Jesus Christ, is also declining. My point is the liberals are going to defame you for your legitimate concern about fags and their effect on society. They did the same about negroes... look how that turned out.

Even Stormfront doesn't post such clearly incorrect 'facts'. Show the source for this please.

[timwakefield 68]

then marriage should be legally dissolved among everyone, regardless of income.

I have no idea why that is your logical conclusion. Why?

[Pot Odds RAC 23]

...there should be no such thing as marriage according to the government...

This is my view since I don't think we should be studying every stinking social issue to decide if people's individual rights should be made illegal. If you can prove that something IS dangerous, then fine, make it illegal, but don't go trying to prove that everything ISN'T dangerous.

[hblask 1]

I'm saying is that IF a study found that male/female relationships are good for society then the government should encourage that. IF they have no extra benefit, then marriage should be legally dissolved among everyone, regardless of income.

I agree the govt should have no role in a decision as private as marriage. I disagree that the govt should do a study and use social engineering to achieve politically accepted ends.The gay marriage thing is a good example. If the govt had done a study in the 50s about gay marriage and kids, the result would be a foregone conclusion: clearly this is a bad thing. No other result would've been allowed. Any law based on that would stick around forever.There is no one-size-fits-all answer to either social or economic issues, and certainly no correct-for-all-time answers. But that is the only tool the federal government has.

[FCP Bob 1,312]

Marriage is really a contract issue and the government should be involved to the same extent as they are in setting up general contract laws. You make sure that people are competent to enter into a marriage via age restrictions to keep abuse to as little as possible and make sure that people enter into a marriage willingly. Any competent adult can enter into a contract and any competent adult should be allowed to get married.

[Balloon guy 158]

Marriage is really a contract issue and the government should be involved to the same extent as they are in setting up general contract laws. You make sure that people are competent to enter into a marriage via age restrictions to keep abuse to as little as possible and make sure that people enter into a marriage willingly. Any competent adult can enter into a contract and any competent adult should be allowed to get married.

Brother and sister?

[hblask 1]

Marriage is really a contract issue and the government should be involved to the same extent as they are in setting up general contract laws. You make sure that people are competent to enter into a marriage via age restrictions to keep abuse to as little as possible and make sure that people enter into a marriage willingly. Any competent adult can enter into a contract and any competent adult should be allowed to get married.

Yes, this is really the point of marriage law -- a shortcut default family contract. But why should the government say "certain people can enter into this type of contract by default, but other people have to jump through hoops and incur lots of legal expenses"? Why not just say "anyone has access to this contract, just come to the courthouse and sign it."?

[vbnautilus 48]

Yes, this is really the point of marriage law -- a shortcut default family contract. But why should the government say "certain people can enter into this type of contract by default, but other people have to jump through hoops and incur lots of legal expenses"? Why not just say "anyone has access to this contract, just come to the courthouse and sign it."?

Because marriage is not originally a contract between the two people who want to get married. Marriage for most of history has been a contract between the couple-to-be-married and their community, that's why the government is involved to begin with, why you need to have witnesses, etc. The couple is supposed to enter community as a family unit in exchange for the benefits of living in that community. That's why the community would have to approve the union and might have various things they expect the couple to do. Obviously things have changed; the role of a family in public life is not what it used to be. But I think the issue has to be understood in this context. ( I agree with you about what the government should do now.)

[Dagata 0]

Just because the state makes it legal, doesn't mean that God is going to let them into heaven.So everyone can rest easy knowing that we got Goal Line defense at the pearly gates.

[LongLiveYorke 38]

Just because the state makes it legal, doesn't mean that God is going to let them into heaven.So everyone can rest easy knowing that we got Goal Line defense at the pearly gates.

Phew, for a second I thought homos were getting into heaven. Glad we've come up with a religion where we can convince ourselves that people who do icky things will burn forever.(Seriously, though, I love the usage of the term "rest easy" in your above post. You're somehow implying that the desire to punish homosexuals came first, and thankfully we have a god that follows through on that desire. Really messed up stuff).

[Mercury69 3]

Legal

[mk 11]

Phew, for a second I thought homos were getting into heaven. Glad we've come up with a religion where we can convince ourselves that people who do icky things will burn forever.

YES they deserved to die and I hope they burn in hell

[mrdannyg 274]

Just because the state makes it legal, doesn't mean that God is going to let them into heaven.So everyone can rest easy knowing that we got Goal Line defense at the pearly gates.

Last time I smoked marijuana I took 1 hit and I was so high I was unable to prove to myself that I had a body or that I even existed for about 12 hours. Even the next day I had lost confidence that I had always existed in the reality I was experiencing.That's why boys and girls, we don't drink a fifth of jim beam before we smoke.

What does God say about drugs?p.s. Ignore this post if the above post was a joke. I thought it was, and pretty funny. But LLY didn't, maybe, and he is better that this than I am.

[Skeleton Jelly 2]

There should be a study on the affects gay marriage has on children or a society as a whole... paid for by a group that isn't religious or faggots.IF there is no ill-effect on children (other than outliers) THEN all marriages should be considered a personal issue and there should be no such thing as marriage according to the government.IF there IS ill-effect on children (other than outliers) THEN gay marriage should remain illegal.

Not everybody who gets married wants to have children.I don't like this idea anyway.I agree with Bob.

[brvheart 1,752]

Not everybody who gets married wants to have children.

that's true, but most married couples do. I wonder what the percentage is though? 90? 80? I'm not sure, but I if I heard it was anything over 75%, I would believe it.