Ninja Ace 1 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I will put a disclaimer that this spot may be way easier than I think it is... I think I made the right move but need some assuranceButton is a station and I want his money in, hence the flat.Villain is 20/18.5/5 over about 100 handsThis converter is going to be a cash cow...Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersUTG: $46.09 UTG+1: $13.00 CO: $43.82 (Hero)Button: $33.80 SB: $21.55 BB: $31.35 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with (6 players)2 folds, Hero raises to $1, Button calls $1, SB folds, BB raises to $2.75, Hero calls $1.75, Button calls $1.75Flop: ($8.35) (3 players)BB checks, Hero bets $6, Button calls $6, BB raises to $28.60, and is all in Hero ? Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 nit says foldgonna see a set a lotunless he's a huge drooler he's not c/r two ppl with like QJ Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 unless he's a huge droolerYeah some aggression but haven't seen anything totally out of line Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 yeah, I think this is an easy fold but I am a nit... Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 he's got JJ, sometimes weird AA Link to post Share on other sites
rrumsey 0 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 gh. very well played. void of reads. Link to post Share on other sites
Shark527 0 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Is flatting the small preflop 3bet the best idea? By doing so, we're certain the button will call also and now we're playing KK 3 handed not in position.Just a personal preference, I'd repop it again pre to somewhere around $7.50 and try to get the button out and calling if BB shoves. It might be tardy, but I'm not folding KK preflop for 110ish BB's. Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 good point, repop Link to post Share on other sites
rrumsey 0 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Is flatting the small preflop 3bet the best idea? By doing so, we're certain the button will call also and now we're playing KK 3 handed not in position.Just a personal preference, I'd repop it again pre to somewhere around $7.50 and try to get the button out and calling if BB shoves. It might be tardy, but I'm not folding KK preflop for 110ish BB's.he isnt 3 betting light imo. but if we pop the 4 bet he is getting it in flipping, chop, or better like everytime. by flatting i think his stack off range on the flop os wider then his stack off range preflop bc he can hi say his 10 of his a10 suited and get it in, the J of his AJ or KJ and get coolered more. Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 he isnt 3 betting light imo. but if we pop the 4 bet he is getting it in flipping, chop, or better like everytime. by flatting i think his stack off range on the flop os wider then his stack off range preflop bc he can hi say his 10 of his a10 suited and get it in, the J of his AJ or KJ and get coolered more.you know we have kings, right? Link to post Share on other sites
Solar 0 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 For me 4-betting is largely based on image. If the table thinks I am a nit, or if I have folded to 3-bets a lot, I am calling. If I have 4-bet this guy already I am 4-betting. As it is I call. Part of the thinking is that if the BB does have some retarded draw or AJ, I want to win 2 BI's when the BTN idiot can't fold J8 getting "4:1". Link to post Share on other sites
rrumsey 0 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 you know we have kings, right?yes. and we want value. his stack off range postflop is much bigger then preflop. Link to post Share on other sites
Shark527 0 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 yes. and we want value. his stack off range postflop is much bigger then preflop.You might be right. I'm saying KK in position against a single opponent is more profitable than 3 handed OOP.I also think his stack off range is probably smaller with an additional hand seeing the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
Danege 1 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 he isnt 3 betting light imo. but if we pop the 4 bet he is getting it in flipping, chop, or better like everytime. by flatting i think his stack off range on the flop os wider then his stack off range preflop bc he can hi say his 10 of his a10 suited and get it in, the J of his AJ or KJ and get coolered more.What sort of hands can KK be chopping with? Aside from the other KK. What sort of hands can KK be flipping against? Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 yeah, chopping? I just don't think it's hit you that we have KK and not AK or QQI hope he ISN'T 3-betting light. I want to felt KK pf. It's not as if the only hand people 3-bet for value pf is AA. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 he's got JJ, sometimes weird AAWhy is he cramming top set here vs two players? Link to post Share on other sites
kepper 0 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 nit says foldgonna see a set a lotunless he's a huge drooler he's not c/r two ppl with like QJ Repop preflop and fold the flop unless he's a drooler Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Why is he cramming top set here vs two players?because there's already a bunch of $ in the pot and two players consequently seem very interested Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 because there's already a bunch of $ in the pot and two players consequently seem very interestedYah but he's made the flop foldable now, whereas if he just calls the flop bet, he can pretty much make the turn or river unfoldable. Link to post Share on other sites
Jbird 0 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 All-in, on the flop.I understand your reasoning for flatting but you cna't get scared off in these spots. KK is stronger than the hands the villain is going to be putting you on. I don't thing villain is good judging by his bet sizing so I would expect to be up against some very weak hands.Knowing his 3-bet tendancys is a def help Link to post Share on other sites
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