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#1 mtdesmoines

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 09:19 AM

Hero sitting with $300. Villain 1 in LP with $150.Villain 2 on button has about $400. Hero just sat down; about third hand.Hero recognizes villain -- not loose, but will splash around trying to catch. Hero dealt JJ in BB. 2 limps, villain1 makes it $10 to go. BB calls. Hero reraises to $35. Call call. PotL $110 +/-Flop: 7h 9h 3c. Hero leads for $75. Villain 1 insta folds. Villain 2 thinks, then announces "all in."Hero?
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Posted 02 October 2007 - 09:27 AM

Bleh, I feel we're only ahead of a strong draw here. TT is possible though. I think AA/KK are possible, QQ-JJ as well, and obv any set.These are spots I don't know too much about what to do. I tend to ship it in here, but I feel like I'm probably losing money on this play.
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Posted 02 October 2007 - 09:31 AM

Villain 2 coldcalled a raise pre and then called the reraise too? You don't have his preflop action listed.

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 09:35 AM

Instacalls expecting to be ahead of a draw
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Posted 02 October 2007 - 09:52 AM

Fabricated hand to justify playing JJ-KK as fast as possible and punishing other players?

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 12:06 PM

View PostScott3705, on Tuesday, October 2nd, 2007, 9:52 AM, said:

Fabricated hand to justify playing JJ-KK as fast as possible and punishing other players?
Fabricated hand? this happened to me last night
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Posted 02 October 2007 - 12:15 PM

View Postmtdesmoines, on Tuesday, October 2nd, 2007, 12:06 PM, said:

Fabricated hand? this happened to me last night
Call. Villian has A9 suited, he think he has the best hand. sigh.

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 12:17 PM

View PostScott3705, on Tuesday, October 2nd, 2007, 12:15 PM, said:

Call. Villian has A9 suited, he think he has the best hand. sigh.

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 12:24 PM

View Postmtdesmoines, on Tuesday, October 2nd, 2007, 1:19 PM, said:

Hero sitting with $300. Villain 1 in LP with $150.Villain 2 on button has about $400. Hero just sat down; about third hand.Hero recognizes villain -- not loose, but will splash around trying to catch. Hero dealt JJ in BB. 2 limps, villain1 makes it $10 to go. BB calls. Hero reraises to $35. Call call. PotL $110 +/-Flop: 7h 9h 3c. Hero leads for $75. Villain 1 insta folds. Villain 2 thinks, then announces "all in."Hero?
He coldcalled with 73. Fold.
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Posted 02 October 2007 - 02:18 PM

Either call hoping that he has A3 hearts or fold because you just sat down and want to get a better feel for the table before entering such a large pot so early.

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 02:24 PM

If this hand happened to me online I would fold without a pretty good read. However I have heard live poker is retarded so its probably a call.You said he splashes around to catch. Have you seen him in pots with draws before? Does he call when he is chasing or does he prefer to be the one doing the betting?

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Posted 03 October 2007 - 12:07 PM

View PostAcid_Knight, on Tuesday, October 2nd, 2007, 9:31 AM, said:

Villain 2 coldcalled a raise pre and then called the reraise too?
Yeah. You can't put him on overs, can you?

View PostTemporary Nuts, on Tuesday, October 2nd, 2007, 9:35 AM, said:

Instacalls expecting to be ahead of a draw
That's what I thought. Or tens. Thought tens would play out like this.

View PostScott3705, on Tuesday, October 2nd, 2007, 12:15 PM, said:

Call. Villian has A9 suited, he think he has the best hand. sigh.
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View PostZach6668, on Tuesday, October 2nd, 2007, 12:24 PM, said:

He coldcalled with 73. Fold.
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View Postdanc1984, on Tuesday, October 2nd, 2007, 2:24 PM, said:

If this hand happened to me online I would fold without a pretty good read. However I have heard live poker is retarded so its probably a call. You said he splashes around to catch. Have you seen him in pots with draws before? Does he call when he is chasing or does he prefer to be the one doing the betting?
It was almost impossible to read because he cold called two raises. Live poker isn't retarded, it plays differently. It's infinitely more fun. He's not afraid to draw. I don't know that he shoves a draw, but my bet could have stimulated the shove. * ** * * ** * * * ** * ** Anyway, I think for about 45 seconds and then some asian dude sitting on $35 dollars calls clock on me. I said, don't ****ing start a clock. That was because I had talked myself into a call at 5 seconds, I used 85 seconds to figure out why. In the end, I figured a set would smooth call and push the turn, so set didn't make sense. Overs would have re-raised PF at one of the two opportunities he had to do so. The only hands I could think of that would do this were TT JJ and a draw, remotely possible QQ. Villain flips over 79 sooted and I don't improve. Anyone absolutely hate the call in this spot or my reasoning for making it? Two players I respect at the table say I made the right call, given everything. I really had nightmares about this hand. It was only the start of the first really bad night I've had in two months. ... I got the money in no less than times good (against shorties on some) and got outdrawn on the turn or rive on all five.
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#13 Acid_Knight

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Posted 03 October 2007 - 12:18 PM

I think a set is his most likely holding here. He rarely ever has a 1 pair hand here. He could have a decent draw, but it really reeks of a middle pair that hit a set.

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Posted 03 October 2007 - 12:19 PM

View Postmtdesmoines, on Wednesday, October 3rd, 2007, 4:07 PM, said:

Yeah. You can't put him on overs, can you? That's what I thought. Or tens. Thought tens would play out like this. Maaaaaaaaaaaybbbbeeeee. But not here. Getting warmer.It was almost impossible to read because he cold called two raises. Live poker isn't retarded, it plays differently. It's infinitely more fun. He's not afraid to draw. I don't know that he shoves a draw, but my bet could have stimulated the shove. * ** * * ** * * * ** * ** Anyway, I think for about 45 seconds and then some asian dude sitting on $35 dollars calls clock on me. I said, don't ****ing start a clock. That was because I had talked myself into a call at 5 seconds, I used 85 seconds to figure out why. In the end, I figured a set would smooth call and push the turn, so set didn't make sense. Overs would have re-raised PF at one of the two opportunities he had to do so. The only hands I could think of that would do this were TT JJ and a draw, remotely possible QQ. Villain flips over 79 sooted and I don't improve. Anyone absolutely hate the call in this spot or my reasoning for making it? I really had nightmares about this hand. It was only the start of the first really bad night I've had in two months. ... I got the money in no less than times good (against shorties on some) and got outdrawn on the turn or rive on all five.
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Posted 03 October 2007 - 12:20 PM

View PostTemporary Nuts, on Wednesday, October 3rd, 2007, 12:19 PM, said:

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