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I was on the fire boat breaking ice in Toronto harbour. -34C with the wind chill out there. It was un-****in-pleasant.

 

here's hoping you don't have to do any rescues out on the harbour ice from some idiot going where they shouldn't

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I was on the fire boat breaking ice in Toronto harbour. -34C with the wind chill out there. It was un-****in-pleasant.

 

When we had our Ontario Place stores one winter they did a winter wonderland event for 30 days. Walking from my car to the store 10 min walk, my tears would freeze on my face.

I can't even imagine what it's like to be on the water.

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here's hoping you don't have to do any rescues out on the harbour ice from some idiot going where they shouldn't

amazing, isn’t it? Ferry service to the island is suspended, so island dwelling idiots try to walk there instead of tak8ng airport ferry.
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amazing, isn’t it? Ferry service to the island is suspended, so island dwelling idiots try to walk there instead of tak8ng airport ferry.

 

I don't have much sympathy for the selfish squatters who have homes on the Islands.

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https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.thestar.com/amp/news/gta/2014/04/16/toronto_islands_community_offers_unique_lessons_for_the_city_at_large.html

 

 

Toronto Islands community offers unique lessons for the city at large

 

Having made peace with the old "squatter" label, the village of 600 residents models values of community and stewardship.

 

 

By JANE GERSTER Staff Reporter

 

Wed., April 16, 2014

 

Quiet, small and set apart from the city, the Toronto Island community is left mostly to itself.

 

Yet when residents raise concerns — a broken-down ferry in the middle of winter, a too-loud waterfront nightclub — they revive old criticisms and the hated “squatter” label.

 

But in a city where waterfront development is a contentious issue, urban designers say the Island is a unique example of public melding with private, one the city as a whole could learn from.

 

“We, in the remaining part of the city, get very, almost religious, about ‘that is the park, that is the private home, never the twain shall meet,’” said George Dark, a partner at Urban Strategies Inc. “But on the Islands it’s a very interesting mixture. The people who live there have a great sense of pride (about) where they live and they also have a certain stewardship over the (public) grounds.”

 

For Dark, the fact that residents there own homes on public land leased from the city isn’t an issue, but rather a good example of the benefit of non-traditional agreements.

 

Island residences take up just 33 acres of more than 800. There are 262 homes and more than 600 people. There is a coffee shop , a school and a daycare. Neighbours are quick with a smile and a friendly hello on the 15-minute ferry ride over.

 

“It really is a neighbourhood,” said Ken Greenberg, principal at Greenberg Consultants and former director of urban design and architecture for the city.

 

Greenberg said the island enclave offers a virtual how-to guide on everything from building car-less neighbourhoods to creating waterfront communities that aren’t privileged — blocked off with signs warning against trespassers.

 

“We’re trying to make a shift in Toronto from just building clusters of condominiums or rental buildings to making real neighbourhoods,” he said. That means not just housing and employment, but also “the amenities, the public spaces, the daycare, the schools, the places that people hang out and drop in and share.”

 

It’s the kind of community Islanders have fought hard to maintain.

 

Settled in the 1800s, the Island became part of Toronto’s jurisdiction in 1956. Almost immediately, there were plans to develop it into a park. In the years following, more than 500 homes were demolished.

 

Council’s attempt in the early 1970s to evict the remaining residents kicked off a long-running court battle, which then prompted an inquiry to determine the future of the neighbourhood.

 

The Toronto Islands Residential Community Stewardship Act brokered a compromise in 1993, allowing residents to own their own homes and lease the land from the province for up to 99 years.

 

While contention over the Island community has died down, it never fully goes away.

 

That doesn’t bother Elizabeth Amer, a fourth-generation resident whose cosy one-storey home on Ward’s Island looks out over the bay.

 

“I’ve always loved it here,” said Amer, a former city councillor who often speaks with park visitors if she’s in her garden.

 

“They’ll stop and ask a question and we’ll have a nice chat about the island,” she said. “It works wonderfully well. It’s a very synergistic relationship between the public park and the island residents.”

 

The Toronto Islands Residential Community Trust and the city agree.

 

“(It’s) a unique environmental setting, and I think a lot of (Island residents) are very attuned to that … there’s a value in that,” said Warren Hoselton, parks supervisor for the Island and the Harbour Square park on the mainland. “Once people engage and take that role on, then I think the park gets better care.”

 

Lorraine Filyer, chair of the Trust, said she’d like to see the rest of the city look at adopting similar rules around cars and land ownership.

 

Residents are allowed to pass homes on to their spouses or children, but otherwise the Trust keeps a potential purchaser’s list with a decades-long wait-list. To get on the list, you have to first win a lottery, which is held only when there are 25 or more spaces on the list. The last lottery took place in November.

 

 

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Ah, they lease the land only. Interesting setup.

 

I don't really know what the problems are, other than, I guess walking across thin ice?

 

I've still never actually been out to the islands.

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Random question for you guys...in case one of you know...

 

If your ex (never married) is living in a house and both names are on the deed, you both own the house, correct? Does it matter if she's been living in it and paying the associated costs since you broke up 4 years ago? I'd Google, but it's a maze and the search is painful!

 

Wish I was asking for a friend.

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Last time I was on the islands has to be over 30 years ago. All I know is that around the islands are monster bass. However you need a special fishing license to fish in the area

 

Also the residents back in the day (and still now) appear to be righteous to their situation. Only the old folks would know what I am taking about if you have been livIng in Toronto for your entire life

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Random question for you guys...in case one of you know...

 

If your ex (never married) is living in a house and both names are on the deed, you both own the house, correct? Does it matter if she's been living in it and paying the associated costs since you broke up 4 years ago? I'd Google, but it's a maze and the search is painful!

 

Wish I was asking for a friend.

 

Yes to me it would be a 50/50 ownership

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Random question for you guys...in case one of you know...

 

If your ex (never married) is living in a house and both names are on the deed, you both own the house, correct? Does it matter if she's been living in it and paying the associated costs since you broke up 4 years ago? I'd Google, but it's a maze and the search is painful!

 

Wish I was asking for a friend.

 

http://www.legalline...ip-of-property/

 

Is the ownership Joint Tenants or Tenants in common ?

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http://www.legalline...ip-of-property/

 

Is the ownership Joint Tenants or Tenants in common ?

 

I'm not sure. I can't remember and the papers are in the home. I was under the impression that the main difference between the two is mostly about ownership when one of the people on the deed dies.

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I'm not sure. I can't remember and the papers are in the home. I was under the impression that the main difference between the two is mostly about ownership when one of the people on the deed dies.

 

If one person passes away it goes to their estate.

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I'm not sure. I can't remember and the papers are in the home. I was under the impression that the main difference between the two is mostly about ownership when one of the people on the deed dies.

 

Tenants in common can have a wide range of ownership structures with each person owning a different percentage for example. It's probably a Joint Tenancy which means you are both equal owners but it can make a difference.

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If one person passes away it goes to their estate.

Not always. Sometimes it goes directly to the other people on the deed. It depends which one of those two ownerships Bob listed...im.not sure which

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actually it doesn't with a joint tenancy. It goes to the other owner outside of the estate.

 

So you are saying that the other person estate gets zero?

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That would be joint tenancy

 

yes. Unless there is another agreement that both owners have agreed to under joint tenancy upon the death of one of the owners the property automatically goes to the other owner and not the estate of the person who died.

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yes. Unless there is another agreement that both owners have agreed to under joint tenancy upon the death of one of the owners the property automatically goes to the other owner and not the estate of the person who died.

 

IMO if a lawyer who would do this and the couple was not married should lose their license to practice

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If you saw the video etc and outcry over this. Even Trudeau pipe in.

 

What will happen to the 11 year old and brother who cried wolf?

 

Absolutely nothing. Kids have no displine these days.

 

I know if my child this (which I highly doubt). There would be hell to be paid

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Anyone see that story about the 3 year old and 6 year old found with broken bones in furniture boxes? I can't fathom how anyone can do such things to a child, let alone their own.

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