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[FCP Bob]

Balloon guy, on 27 July 2012 - 10:44 AM, said:

The Federal Reserve isn't political....

That's what the House GOPers are trying to make it.

[Balloon guy]

FCP Bob, on 27 July 2012 - 10:52 AM, said:

That's what the House GOPers are trying to make it.

By forcing them to submit to an audit?I guess giving a non-elected board control of the countries fiscal policies should be done without oversight?

[timwakefield]

Balloon guy, on 27 July 2012 - 06:53 AM, said:

Well, I knew one person who was very much in support of evolution, used it to guide his national policy of evolved people and the need to remove the undesirable genes from the gene pool.He claimed to be one thing, but his actions were decidedly Darwinian Evolutionist...

timwakefield, on 17 February 2012 - 04:25 AM, said:

I will say again that you're literally trying to agree with Hitler. It's possibly the single most obtuse argument against evolution that anyone ever makes, which is saying a mountain.Multiple choice question:Hitler was...A] An insane genocidal dictator who used any and all false excuses to justify and garner support for his campaign of genocide.B] A studious and respected scientist knowledgeable in the field of evolutionary biology.I shouldn't even bother responding to your Hitler garbage because I honestly hope that you're trolling, and it's hard to believe that you aren't.

Balloon guy, on 27 July 2012 - 06:53 AM, said:

Now I know you want to say that since some of these people walked physically into a church once or twice in their life that you get to attribute their actions solely into the 'religious side of the equation...but the rest of the world acknowledges that they weren't.

The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity. It will be its honest endeavour to protect both the great Christian Confessions in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines (Lehren), and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of the State of today. - Adolf Hitler, June 26, 1934My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. .. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. - Adolf Hitler, April 12, 1922We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out. - Adolf Hitler, October 24, 1933National Socialism neither opposes the Church nor is it anti-religious, but on the contrary, it stands on the ground of a real Christianity. The Church's interests cannot fail to coincide with ours alike in our fight against the symptoms of degeneracy in the world of today, in our fight against the Bolshevist culture, against an atheistic movement, against criminality, and in our struggle for the consciousness of a community in our national life, for the conquest of hatred and disunion between the classes, for the conquest of civil war and unrest, of strife and discord. - Adolf Hitler, August 26, 1934The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and co-operation. It will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life. - Adolf Hitler, February 1, 1933

[JustDoIt]

mrdannyg, on 27 July 2012 - 09:16 AM, said:

Despite the formatting, one of my favourite posts by you. Funny to see how a logical person can use very logical underpinnings to spin so far off sometimes.Anyway, if you're voting Romney because you want to see less corporate cronyism and less corporations being bailed out, I think you need to remember that every party attacks every unpopular thing the last person did, even if it is the same thing they would've done in the same scenario. Ignoring the NOISE AND RHETORIC, I can't imagine a scenario where the large corporations don't come out at least as well, if not much better off, if a Rep had been President in the last 4 years.

That is a point I can not argue with. There are people in both parties that want to address Corporate Cronyism and it is my hope we will add numbers to that this election and finally have enough votes to actually do something about it. I can hope.

[Balloon guy]

timwakefield, on 27 July 2012 - 11:35 AM, said:

The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity. It will be its honest endeavour to protect both the great Christian Confessions in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines (Lehren), and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of the State of today. - Adolf Hitler, June 26, 1934My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. .. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. - Adolf Hitler, April 12, 1922We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out. - Adolf Hitler, October 24, 1933National Socialism neither opposes the Church nor is it anti-religious, but on the contrary, it stands on the ground of a real Christianity. The Church's interests cannot fail to coincide with ours alike in our fight against the symptoms of degeneracy in the world of today, in our fight against the Bolshevist culture, against an atheistic movement, against criminality, and in our struggle for the consciousness of a community in our national life, for the conquest of hatred and disunion between the classes, for the conquest of civil war and unrest, of strife and discord. - Adolf Hitler, August 26, 1934The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and co-operation. It will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life. - Adolf Hitler, February 1, 1933

I did not have sex with that woman, Monica Lewinksi.Bill Clinton, President of the United States

[timwakefield]

Balloon guy, on 27 July 2012 - 02:16 PM, said:

I did not have sex with that woman, Monica Lewinksi.Bill Clinton, President of the United States

We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out. - Adolf Hitler, October 24, 1933Hitler was not an atheist, nor was he an evolutionary biologist.

[ShakeZuma]

not to derail from this engrossing discussion on hitler's religious preference, but balloon guy, you do realize that you're getting dangerously close to supporting a ron paul position, right?

[InternetExplorer]

Balloon guy, on 27 July 2012 - 11:07 AM, said:

By forcing them to submit to an audit?I guess giving a non-elected board control of the countries fiscal policies should be done without oversight?

giving politicians more sway over fiscal policy is really not something you want if you are interested in decisions geared for the long-term.

[Balloon guy]

ShakeZuma, on 27 July 2012 - 02:58 PM, said:

not to derail from this engrossing discussion on hitler's religious preference, but balloon guy, you do realize that you're getting dangerously close to supporting a ron paul position, right?

Yes, and I'm cool with that

InternetExplorer, on 27 July 2012 - 05:43 PM, said:

giving politicians more sway over fiscal policy is really not something you want if you are interested in decisions geared for the long-term.

They did such a good job lately...

[FCP Bob]

Just a little correction to some of the above.Politicians are responsible for fiscal policy aka gov't taxing and spending.They should not be in charge of the day to day monetary policy which is best done by an independent central bank.

[FCP Bob]

As usual The Economist with excellent analysis. The presidential campaign Another fine mess A useful debate has begun about America’s biggest domestic challenge, but it is comically shallow

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So it is sad to report how lacklustre the debate about government is in America. The obvious decline is on the right. This newspaper is hardly delighted that government spending has grown from 34% of GDP in 1980, when Friedman published “Free to Choose”, to over 40% today; but American conservatism has grown so angry that it has become a parody of its former self. Tax cuts are always right (even if they inflate the deficit); government activism is always wrong (even if stimulus helped avert a depression). And the right’s hypocrisy when it comes to spending on conservative projects (prisons, the armed forces, subsidies to big business) is breathtaking. George W. Bush presided over a huge growth in government.If the Republican Party has moved to the unthinking right, the Democratic Party has moved to the unreforming left. Mr Obama has shown little of Mr Clinton’s enthusiasm for modernising government: indeed, he is unpicking welfare reform, by loosening work requirements. He has presided over a huge expansion of legislation, much of it badly drafted, such as the 850-page Dodd-Frank bill (see article). Worryingly in hock to the public-sector unions, Mr Obama seems to think the public sector is inherently more moral than the private one. Companies are at best cows to be milked, at worst prey to be hunted

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[InternetExplorer]

yeah meant monetary... of course I was drunk.

[Balloon guy]

Bad time for the vaulted GM bailout to be realized for the piece of dog crap it was.Who would have guessed that keeping a poorly run business afloat wouldn't pay off dividends?Normal cyclical economics demands that some businesses fail because they are not run right. Once this is done, a new company can build off the carcass and begin a viable business that employees people and turns a profit.

[FCP Bob]

Balloon guy, on 31 July 2012 - 06:04 AM, said:

Bad time for the vaulted GM bailout to be realized for the piece of dog crap it was.Who would have guessed that keeping a poorly run business afloat wouldn't pay off dividends?Normal cyclical economics demands that some businesses fail because they are not run right. Once this is done, a new company can build off the carcass and begin a viable business that employees people and turns a profit.

That article basically says that the stock price is down and they are making some changes in the management ranks and nothing more. Show me a car company whose stock isn't down with Europe going down the drain and China about to have a hard landing.http://www.google.ca...nt=ob&q=NYSE:GMHey look GM is still profitable

[akoff]

FCP Bob, on 31 July 2012 - 06:13 AM, said:

That article basically says that the stock price is down and they are making some changes in the management ranks and nothing more. Show me a car company whose stock isn't down with Europe going down the drain and China about to have a hard landing.http://www.google.ca...nt=ob&q=NYSE:GMHey look GM is still profitable

That is interesting, what I read was the management seems to be in turmoil making many moves without giving changes any chance to take hold….that and market share in domestic markets are down 11 percent for the year. Mind you that is market share not total sales. If you are losing that large of a market share in that short of a period of time you have a problem. I guess a person can read an article any way they want. i prefer to read it for what it actually says.

[mrdannyg]

akoff, on 31 July 2012 - 06:42 AM, said:

That is interesting, what I read was the management seems to be in turmoil making many moves without giving changes any chance to take hold….that and market share in domestic markets are down 11 percent for the year. Mind you that is market share not total sales. If you are losing that large of a market share in that short of a period of time you have a problem. I guess a person can read an article any way they want. i prefer to read it for what it actually says.

My favourite part of this forum is republicans quoting awfully-written sources dripping with misdirection and bias, and pointing to them as examples of their awesome reading comprehension.

[Balloon guy]

When your blinders are that tight...does it give you headaches?

[FCP Bob]

Well balanced article from The Economist on GMhttp://www.economist...yetasinkingship

[colonel Feathers]

mrdannyg, on 31 July 2012 - 08:16 AM, said:

My favourite part of this forum is republicans quoting awfully-written sources dripping with misdirection and bias, and pointing to them as examples of their awesome reading comprehension.

The main reason this site is so awesome. The words republican and democrat can be interchanged in any argument with no loss in accuracy.

[SAM_Hard8]

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