Posted 21 August 2012 - 04:08 PM
A few days away from all of you and up pops this doosy!! Where to begin ...Every place I have ever played, both Michigan charity rooms and MI, IN, LV, IL, IN and AZ casinos would have done EXACTLY what happened to the Flop. However some may have missed using the originally intended Turn, River AND burn cards before the re=shuffle and new Flop. Quite the mistake for a dealer to do this with an all-in shove and no callers, but I suppose it could (and apparently did) happen.The charity room, which is normally a seperate entity from the bowling alley, doesn't owe anything back to you other than maybe some comp food if they do such a thing. This is just a bad scenario ... some poker players would have taken the option to fold their hand since you MAY have had the opportunity to do so once order was restored and the hand was 'started' back up at the logical spot prior to the mistake ... which was the all-in shove. They would call it 'bad mojo' ... even with Aces, I have seen it with my own eyes.It is not uncommon to limp with Aces in a Michigan charity room from early position since pots are raised 85% of the time and play more like 1-3 or 2-5 most of the time. Case in point ... this hand where a $120 shove occured with no more than $18 in the pot!! Is our OP a 'good/great' player? Who knows as most buy-ins are limited to $200 and he had $120 in his stack ... most wait until below $100 to top-off. But not knowing this 'common' rule does lend itself to a limited experience for sure. We all have to 'get-over' ourselves once in a while when we think we have it figured out and the deck slaps us good for a night!! In one of my normal rooms if he had raised to even $22 (common Aces bet) there could have been 2 or 3 callers with his Aces OOP after the Flop ... and he would have been up against 45s and 97o or J10o.For those of you who would like to come to a charity room in Michigan, just look them up ... there are plenty, but the list is often not up to date. There is even a room on the east side of the state (Utica, I believe) that can move up to $75k a day through it!! Each charity is limited to $15k in chip sales per day and most rooms have 2 or 3 charities per day if they are good rooms. I play at Woody's and Westgate, both on the west side of Michigan in the Grand Rapids area. As far a casinos ... Motor City has the best room with basically all the others behind them and there are plenty of those all over the state as well ... you are no more than 1 hour from a poker game in our state just has you are no more than 10 miles from a lake in our state ... come on up ... I'd love to play a few orbits with you!!