$1.40 9-man Ko Sng

[RakeMyBlind 0]

oops this was a 90-man not a 9-manCheck/Call? Bet/Fold? Check Fold? Is checking flop to keep pot small OK or bad?Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($1.00+$0.25) t100/t200 ante t25 - 8 playersUTG: t4,937 UTG+1: t4,560 MP: t19,479 HJ: t5,170 CO: t7,105 Button: t6,210 SB: t5,600 BB: t3,740 (Hero)Preflop: (t500) Hero is BB with (8 players)3 folds, HJ calls t200, 3 folds, Hero checksFlop: (t700) (2 players)Hero checks, HJ checksTurn: (t700) (2 players)Hero bets t400, HJ calls t400River: (t1,500) (2 players)Hero ???

[TheTiburon 0]

The play to the flop was fine.. You would have been better off leading on the flop and taking down the pot. It's not like A6 is the nuts in this position. If they call, I see checking the turn or putting in another bet.

Check/Call? Bet/Fold? Check Fold? Is checking flop to keep pot small OK or bad?Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($1.00+$0.25) t100/t200 ante t25 - 8 playersUTG: t4,937 UTG+1: t4,560 MP: t19,479 HJ: t5,170 CO: t7,105 Button: t6,210 SB: t5,600 BB: t3,740 (Hero)Preflop: (t500) Hero is BB with (8 players)3 folds, HJ calls t200, 3 folds, Hero checksFlop: (t700) (2 players)Hero checks, HJ checksTurn: (t700) (2 players)Hero bets t400, HJ calls t400River: (t1,500) (2 players)Hero ???

[Mills 0]

flop is ok, betting is ok too. River is a clear bet imo.

[Shark527 0]

The line up to the river is fine.I just check river. Your not going to get called with a worse hand, which I can see only being a Q. You tie with a few slightly better A's and lose to three - AQ, A9, A8, which probably would have raised your turn bet.I'd just check hoping to see his showdown hand.

[Fade2241 0]

flop is ok, betting is ok too. River is a clear check imo.

FYPgive'em rope yo

[donk4life 34]

Don't give them rope, bet something small like 500-600. By checking, you're basically hoping he called with a flushdraw on the turn, and that is just such a small part of his range. It's also the only realistic draw he could have as well, so therefore he has more hands in his range that we have beat but will probably call a smaller bet on the river.

[rrumsey 0]

i like the flop check. turn bet i like. bet middle or the road, like 2/3 pot on the river. bc we checked flop we can easily vbet 2 decently safe streets. i like the line a lot.

[Fade2241 0]

Don't give them rope, bet something small like 500-600. By checking, you're basically hoping he called with a flushdraw on the turn, and that is just such a small part of his range. It's also the only realistic draw he could have as well, so therefore he has more hands in his range that we have beat but will probably call a smaller bet on the river.

what is he calling with that you beat? a queen? i'm thinking someone is more likely to bet this board if checked to with a queen rather than calling off a river bet with one. pretty sure it's too hard to take anyone to valuetown on this board with your hand. check the river for pot control if you need another reason but i'm not blowing up the pot here with this hand on that board.

[donk4life 34]

what is he calling with that you beat? a queen? i'm thinking someone is more likely to bet this board if checked to with a queen rather than calling off a river bet with one. pretty sure it's too hard to take anyone to valuetown on this board with your hand. check the river for pot control if you need another reason but i'm not blowing up the pot here with this hand on that board.

So wait, if a queen won't call our river bet, then why on earth would a queen bet if we check to them? How many aces are in his range that take this line preflop, on the flop, and on the turn?Like I said, the only realistic draw he could have here that missed is spades. Being that as only a small part of his range, it's in our best interest to best here. He could have limped a queen, a smaller pocket pair, hell he might even have a 9 in his hand and will call a small river bet. However, all of these things he checks back when we check to him.Keep in mind, that the only realistic hands we lose to are an 8 (which probably doesn't flat the turn), AQ, A9, or AK. The only one that makes the slightest of sense there is A9. People aren't going to limp AQ, AK pf, check the flop, and then flat the turn, I guess they could but they'd have to be a huge nit. Nevertheless, we can still bet/fold this river against most opponents.Don't underestimate the type of hands people will call a smaller river bet with on this board, their calling range can be extremely wide.

[potatoman 0]

I like checking the river slightly more than betting. My hand's not super strong, so I like pot control/ giving my opponent the opportunity to bluff.Betting is okay, worse hands will call (this a a $1.40 sng) and I think we're ahead more often than we're behind. However, I don't see why I need to get a tiny bit of value here when it's a $1.40 and I can usually get max value on my strong hands with little risk to my stack.

[babylondonks 5]

goddd why do we keep saying let villain bluff? wtf is villain getting to the river with that he can bluff aside from a flush draw which is a tiny tiny part of his range compared to weaker one pair hands?

[Fade2241 0]

So wait, if a queen won't call our river bet, then why on earth would a queen bet if we check to them? How many aces are in his range that take this line preflop, on the flop, and on the turn?Like I said, the only realistic draw he could have here that missed is spades. Being that as only a small part of his range, it's in our best interest to best here. He could have limped a queen, a smaller pocket pair, hell he might even have a 9 in his hand and will call a small river bet. However, all of these things he checks back when we check to him.Keep in mind, that the only realistic hands we lose to are an 8 (which probably doesn't flat the turn), AQ, A9, or AK. The only one that makes the slightest of sense there is A9. People aren't going to limp AQ, AK pf, check the flop, and then flat the turn, I guess they could but they'd have to be a huge nit. Nevertheless, we can still bet/fold this river against most opponents.Don't underestimate the type of hands people will call a smaller river bet with on this board, their calling range can be extremely wide.

i think your ranges are correct i just don't agree with the logic at the end of your post. i may be looking at this the wrong way but imo ace rag never plays well in general and i don't like to blow up the pot with this hand on this board. reads obv change that but i still don't think the value you get from betting the river is enough to outweigh a check. i think people fold a queen or a 9 if you bet this river again way more frequently than they call unless your image is super laggy. the risk is not with the reward imo in this case. i still think giving them rope = more value in this spot.

[donk4life 34]

i think your ranges are correct i just don't agree with the logic at the end of your post. i may be looking at this the wrong way but imo ace rag never plays well in general and i don't like to blow up the pot with this hand on this board. reads obv change that but i still don't think the value you get from betting the river is enough to outweigh a check. i think people fold a queen or a 9 if you bet this river again way more frequently than they call unless your image is super laggy. the risk is not with the reward imo in this case. i still think giving them rope = more value in this spot.

What risk? We're never folding to a river bet in this spot unless it's some ungodly amount right? So if he's checking back most of his range here, then shouldn't he be betting the only part of his range that has us beat? We bet, if we get raised we fold. But given the line he has took in this hand it is very very unlikely we are beat here. However, he more than likely has a mediocre hand that probably will not bet if checked to, but will probably call a smaller river bet.

[Fade2241 0]

What risk? We're never folding to a river bet in this spot unless it's some ungodly amount right? So if he's checking back most of his range here, then shouldn't he be betting the only part of his range that has us beat? We bet, if we get raised we fold. But given the line he has took in this hand it is very very unlikely we are beat here. However, he more than likely has a mediocre hand that probably will not bet if checked to, but will probably call a smaller river bet.

okay, i see your point a little better now. you're right about not folding the river. my initial thought was that he would turn his range into a bluff more often than a bluffcatcher, therefore meaning more value for us. i still think it's close, but i think you may have swayed me to bet a little more often in a spot like this. A smaller bet seems aight. good discussion imo, ty.

[babylondonks 5]

villain has no need to turn his range into a bluff when we have such a weak range ourselves

[Eba12 0]

Man I kinda like the setup for these tourneys and was running ok on a 9 mans, didnt know there was 90s but anyways.Cows play poker with cow chipsPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($3.00+$0.75) t50/t100 - 5 playersBB: t3,335 (Hero)UTG: t1,720 CO: t2,720 Button: t1,580 SB: t4,145 Preflop: (t150) Hero is BB with (5 players)UTG calls t100, 3 folds, Hero checksFlop: (t250) (2 players)Hero bets t300, UTG raises to t1620 and is all-in, Hero calls t1320What do you think happens next;OAbout your hand I would have probably done the same and bet about 600 on the river.