RakeMyBlind 0 Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 These kind of spots always give me fits. Button is a moron who I think has played every hand and SB is very tight/passive. Thoughts on all streets, especially river.A pack of feral cows chewed their cuds for .0043 seconds to convert this handPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($1.00+$0.25) t25/t50 - 4 playersUTG: t4,170 (Hero)Button: t4,440 SB: t1,645 BB: t3,245 Preflop: (t75) Hero is UTG with (4 players)Hero raises to t150, Button calls t150, SB calls t125, BB foldsFlop: (t500) (3 players)SB checks, Hero bets t300, Button calls t300, SB foldsTurn: (t1,100) (2 players)Hero bets t700, Button calls t700River: (t2,500) (2 players)Hero ??? Link to post Share on other sites
rrumsey 0 Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 c/f river Link to post Share on other sites
FARGOpokerND 22 Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 Is button ever bluffing river if you bet?Would he pay off with a 2 or 3?If not a bluffer and he would often pay off anything I may just b/f a small amount to get value from 24 25 34 35 44 55 A2 A3 77 88. Link to post Share on other sites
RakeMyBlind 0 Posted July 29, 2010 Author Share Posted July 29, 2010 Is button ever bluffing river if you bet?Would he pay off with a 2 or 3?If not a bluffer and he would often pay off anything I may just b/f a small amount to get value from 24 25 34 35 44 55 A2 A3 77 88.I figured if I bet and he raised there was no way I could call, but checking would be just inviting a bluff but I still couldn't call. He was so loose/aggro prior to this, and then this time he just called me down the whole way. I do think he would pay off light but I'm fully expecting him to make a huge bet/raise on the river.What amount should I be bet/folding? Link to post Share on other sites
cdipierr 0 Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 I figured if I bet and he raised there was no way I could call, but checking would be just inviting a bluff but I still couldn't call. He was so loose/aggro prior to this, and then this time he just called me down the whole way. I do think he would pay off light but I'm fully expecting him to make a huge bet/raise on the river.What amount should I be bet/folding?If you check, what hand can he bet that's actually a bluff? Is he really calling you the whole way with AKo and then bluffing the river? I mean really? Even if he "just had a 6", he got there. And obviously diamonds got there. Straight was already there on the flop. Just c/f. Link to post Share on other sites
TrueAce13 18 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 you guys are hella deep....thats really all i can think of right now since i'm tired and still drunk, will post strat in a bit Link to post Share on other sites
RakeMyBlind 0 Posted July 30, 2010 Author Share Posted July 30, 2010 So, I was thinking about this hand again after seeing some replies and was wondering how checking the turn would be. If I check the turn and he leads for close to a pot-size bet I could shove on him or if he leads for a small min. bet that are common at this level I could flat and not have the pot so big on the river and make bet/folding or check/calling alot easier when the dreaded diamond hits. Thoughts?In reality I intended to check/fold the river unless villain threw out a min. bet I would call. Link to post Share on other sites
cdipierr 0 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 So, I was thinking about this hand again after seeing some replies and was wondering how checking the turn would be. If I check the turn and he leads for close to a pot-size bet I could shove on him or if he leads for a small min. bet that are common at this level I could flat and not have the pot so big on the river and make bet/folding or check/calling alot easier when the dreaded diamond hits. Thoughts?In reality I intended to check/fold the river unless villain threw out a min. bet I would call.The problem with checking the turn is that you let him draw for free. This is losing value, because most of the time he's going to miss his draw. And therefore you want to extract value out of him here while you know you're ahead and he's going to call with the worst of it. Yes it leads to lousy situations on the river when he hits, but that's only 20% of the time give or take. Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 I like checking turn a ton more when we're in position Link to post Share on other sites
RakeMyBlind 0 Posted July 31, 2010 Author Share Posted July 31, 2010 Thanks for all the replies, turns out I ended up checking and villain checked behind me with A5 off. Link to post Share on other sites
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