FCP Bob 1,312 Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share Posted April 17, 2014 Sorting Out the Law Behind Phil Ivey's Edge Sorting Debacle at Borgata Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted April 22, 2014 Author Share Posted April 22, 2014 Daniel gave his 2 cents Daniel Negreanu @RealKidPoker · Apr 18 Been reading up on poker news lately and the people running the Borgata high limit pit have to be incredibly stupid overall. Daniel Negreanu @RealKidPoker · Apr 18 All high limit gamblers should be watching the Borgata case closely. How it's ruled will affect gamblers rights in the future. Daniel Negreanu @RealKidPoker · Apr 18 My hat's off to any man who can get an edge on a big time casino. It's just straight baller and I have zero empathy for the big fish. Daniel Negreanu @RealKidPoker · Apr 18 Big fish sets all the rules, oks all the rules, they need to eat it when they get beat and not be whiny biatches about it. Daniel Negreanu @RealKidPoker · Apr 18 It's appalling to freeroll customers. Take their money if they lose but don't pay when they win? Are you for real Borgata? That's dirty. Daniel Negreanu @RealKidPoker · Apr 18 If I agree to give a guy a shot a hole on the golf course and agree to allow him a caddie, and I lose, I'm the only person I can blame. Daniel Negreanu @RealKidPoker · Apr 18 I've been hustled before, but the idea of not paying was never even a consideration! Borgata- you got hustled bad. Get over it already. Daniel Negreanu @RealKidPoker · Apr 18 Suing customers who crushed your souls is a bad look. You got bent over. Might as well smile and enjoy it. #Borgata Daniel Negreanu @RealKidPoker · Apr 18 Borgata, you thought Ivey was stupid and you tried to bury him. He hustled you, smoked you, and left you feeling silly. Stand responsible! Daniel Negreanu @RealKidPoker · Apr 18 No one in the world has empathy for Borgata in this. Stop playing victim because YOUR hustle wasn't as good as Ivey's 1 Link to post Share on other sites
David_Sklansky 1,903 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Say what you want about DN, but he knows how to make someone eat shit. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Extra points for the anal rape joke. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SuitedAces21 2,722 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 i wonder how those tweets would have looked had it been howard lederer or annie duke. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
David_Sklansky 1,903 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 To be fair, Annie isn't smart enough to pull that off, and Howard already stole too much to bother. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Look, you have to pick a scumbag team to root for, dawg. The Cheater Ivey and the deadbeat degenerate EDog are good, and the bitch Duke and the theif Lederer are bad 2 Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 See,. it was bad that Russ Hamilton cheated, because that was from individuals. When corporations get cheated, it's all in the game. They aren't people. Except, you know, legally. Link to post Share on other sites
David_Sklansky 1,903 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Look, you have to pick a scumbag team to root for, dawg. The Cheater Ivey and the deadbeat degenerate Lingrin are good, and the bitch Duke and the theif Lederer are bad DN very clearly and very publicly admitted that when EDog steals money, that it is at the very least ethically dubious. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
David_Sklansky 1,903 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 See,. it was bad that Russ Hamilton cheated, because that was from individuals. When corporations get cheated, it's all in the game. They aren't people. Except, you know, legally. The reason what Hamilton did was a problem is that Ham is old and has no charisma. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I'm just not sure the "It's all in the game" as a legal defense, is going to hold up in a court of law. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 good article from Sporting News Phil Ivey controversy: Searching for ethical line in gambling Link to post Share on other sites
David_Sklansky 1,903 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 good article from Sporting News Phil Ivey controversy: Searching for ethical line in gambling “With his position as one of the faces of poker, I can’t believe this is what wants to put out there, market and advertise,” said Chad. “It’s a stain on poker. It’s not the image that you want to project on poker, not when we’re currently battling for legal online poker. Phil’s got to be above that.” If online poker were legalized, not a ton changes for Phil. When it goes through, it's going to be a monopoly controlled by the brick and mortar casino people, Phil isn't getting any of that money this time. Not much is likely going to change in the amount of action Phil can get. And FTP made it pretty clear that Phil and everyone else are happy to play a multimillion dollar short con, and I find it hard to believe that the sponsorship money in poker is anything close to what Phil has been able to pick up by cheating over the years even if he weren't. Why the **** would it be in his interest to keep his nose clean? It's not, but it's sure in Norman Chad's interest, which is why televised poker has worked so tirelessly to pretend poker players aren't all cheats, addicts, criminals, scumbags and pedophiles. End of story. Ivey's working his hustle, Chad is working his. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted July 23, 2014 Author Share Posted July 23, 2014 Borgata Counters Phil Ivey Motion to Dismiss Edge Sorting Lawsuit Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share Posted August 12, 2014 Phil Ivey Edge Sorting Case to Take Another Year Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted July 24, 2015 Author Share Posted July 24, 2015 Borgata destroyed the cards that were used when Ivey was playing. Phil Ivey countersues Borgata Casino over baccarat winnings Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 Highlights from Ivey/Borgata Deposition: Booze, Pretty Cocktail Waitresses and More Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Q: And who served these drinks? You said it was pretty young girls? Ivey: Yes, at the Borgata. They have the prettiest waitresses in town. Q: One of whom is a former girlfriend of mine. Ivey: Is that right? Nice. hahahaha. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted November 29, 2015 Author Share Posted November 29, 2015 'I'm getting a second shot': Poker ace accused of cheating by exclusive Mayfair gaming club may get back his £8million winnings in court appeal Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3337982/I-m-getting-second-shot-Poker-ace-accused-cheating-exclusive-Mayfair-gaming-club-8million-winnings-court-appeal.html#ixzz3svVf4YYb Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted December 20, 2016 Author Share Posted December 20, 2016 Court Orders Phil Ivey to Return $10.1M to Borgata Link to post Share on other sites
Vegas Knights 54 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Court Orders Phil Ivey to Return $10.1M to Borgata From the link "The judge did reiterate that Ivey did not break the rules of Baccarat or commit fraud, only that he had breached casino contract, something that split court opinion back in late October of 2016." I'd love to see a signed copy of this so called casino contract. Link to post Share on other sites
SuitedAces21 2,722 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 trump needs to fix this. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted January 1, 2017 Author Share Posted January 1, 2017 trump needs to fix this. Trump's position on people who beat the casinos is probably that they should be water boarded Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted July 13, 2017 Author Share Posted July 13, 2017 Poker Pro Ivey Goes All In at U.K.'s Top Court Cheating Case Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted July 16, 2017 Author Share Posted July 16, 2017 Phil Ivey’s Semi-Bluff Poker’s most mysterious and respected player is sitting out this year’s World Series. Is it because he doesn’t care about his legacy? Or because an international scandal threatens his gambling future? Link to post Share on other sites
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