Random News Observations

[Balloon guy 158]

You are literally comparing gun violence in America to a continent mass genocide happens on a not-to-infrequent basis.

 

I was in South Africa in 2011.

 

Couple guys walked into a mall and shot it up with fully auto AKs.

 

Made the headlines for one day, then it went away. Locals said it happens all the time.

 

 

Why is Canada racist against Whites?

[Balloon guy 158]

The first article is nowhere near the truth. Not only do mass shootings occur more frequently in countries all over Africa, but they also have higher death tolls. I feel like the Dems that ignore Africa are being a tad racist.

 

This completely ignores Eastern Eupore also.

 

In the end, though, my gut feeling is that the 86 people that died in Nice, France by getting run over by a truck don't give a shit that they weren't killed by a bullet instead of a tire. But that's just a guess.

 

I'm also positive that Norway will be thrilled to find out that the 77 kids that Anders Breivik shot are alive and well since that stuff never happens in other countries.

 

 

Take out suicide and gang related shootings and the US has the same rate as Belgium

[JustDoIt 10]

The Corruption is Vast and not Going Away

 

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

[Dubey 1,035]

 

 

Take out suicide and gang related shootings

 

and why would you do that?

[brvheart 1,752]

Suicide isn't murder for one.

[loogie 115]

Suicide isn't murder for one.

 

I can't think of a better way to describe it, actually.

[Dubey 1,035]

 

 

Multiply your population by 10 and your state/provident government agencies by 5, then have lobbyist, insurance companies and healthcare conglomerates write up a new plan and hand it to corrupt politicians and tell me we have a shot at something remotely able to work.

 

 

I'm not saying that it's even feasible in the USA, but this new argument that "actually, universal healthcare isn't even that good for the user, I mean, just look at Canada" is ridiculous, and is hugely counterproductive to there being any chance of it happening in the USA.

[FCP Bob 1,312]

Suicide isn't murder for one.

 

increased suicides from guns is one of the major dangers from having guns in the home.

[brvheart 1,752]

I can't think of a better way to describe it, actually.

 

"the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another."

[loogie 115]

"the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another."

 

Suicide is murder for one.

 

Suicide.

 

Murder.

 

For one.

 

[taps microphone]

[FCP Bob 1,312]

"the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another."

 

how do we classify toddlers shooting people since they aren't old enough to be legally responsible.

 

American toddlers are still shooting people on a weekly basis this year

[loogie 115]

[softly caresses microphone]

[Dubey 1,035]

the evolution of a pro-gun argument:

 

"guns don't kill people, people kill people!"

 

"The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun!"

 

"That's ridiculous, this isn't the ONLY country where this regularly happens, stupid Onion."

 

"well if you take away this huge subset of gun deaths in America, we are kind of average if you squint at the numbers"

 

"By this definition right here, suicides aren't TECHNICALLY murder"

[brvheart 1,752]

I don't know why BG even mentioned taking out the suicides or gang shootings. Even with that stuff, we aren't even close to #1 like the liberal msm says we are.

[FCP Bob 1,312]

I don't know why BG even mentioned taking out the suicides or gang shootings. Even with that stuff, we aren't even close to #1 like the liberal msm says we are.

 

the US is number 1 if compared to the countries that aren't failed states and are rich. Do you really want to be compared to Yemen or countries in Africa that have armed conflict in them ?

[brvheart 1,752]

I wouldn't want to be racist against any people group. Violence is violence.

 

I also would have to jump through way too many logical hoops to get the US to #1. I would have to throw out most of South and Central America, which could be seen as racism. I would also have to throw out most of Africa, even South Africa, and that seems racist AND Westernized. So I'll just go with the actual numbers and see that the US is just the middle of the road (#94) for intentional homicides and know that anything else is just pushing a narrative that isn't based on reality.

 

 

 

https://en.wikipedia...l_homicide_rate

 

 

To BG's point though, if we legalized drugs, I would guess those numbers would plummet and be on par with Norway, France, and Canada. It would likely cause the homicide rates to fall all over South and Central America as well.

[FCP Bob 1,312]

I wouldn't want to be racist against any people group. Violence is violence.

 

I also would have to jump through way too many logical hoops to get the US to #1. I would have to throw out most of South and Central America, which could be seen as racism. I would also have to throw out most of Africa, even South Africa, and that seems racist AND Westernized. So I'll just go with the actual numbers and see that the US is just the middle of the road (#94) for intentional homicides and know that anything else is just pushing a narrative that isn't based on reality.

 

 

 

https://en.wikipedia...l_homicide_rate

 

 

To BG's point though, if we legalized drugs, I would guess those numbers would plummet and be on par with Norway, France, and Canada. It would likely cause the homicide rates to fall all over South and Central America as well.

 

and the US is 11th in the World in firearms related deaths.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

 

Just the fact that the guns exist and are in people's homes is the issue, it isn't just about murder. It's about suicides, and accidents and those homicial toddlers.

 

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/2/16399418/us-gun-violence-statistics-maps-charts

 

5) States with more guns have more gun deaths

 

 

1) America has six times as many firearm homicides as Canada, and nearly 16 times as many as Germany

 

[brvheart 1,752]

Considering that gun deaths aren't even close to the top 10 in causes of death in the US, I would say that it's not actually a big problem. Mental Health is a much bigger problem than guns.

 

 

Also, Vox and Mother Jones diagrams that push a narrative by only choosing items that will poison the well won't work on anyone but the most extreme liberal readers.

[Balloon guy 158]

 

 

Gun ownership per capita world wide.

 

Canada has a lot more guns than most every other country ( except the US ....#1)

 

Why doesn't Canada have a higher gun deaths stat if it's availability of guns and gun ownership that causes gun deaths?

[FCP Bob 1,312]

 

Gun ownership per capita world wide.

 

Canada has a lot more guns than most every other country ( except the US ....#1)

 

Why doesn't Canada have a higher gun deaths stat if it's availability of guns and gun ownership that causes gun deaths?

 

Most of our guns are long guns not hand guns. Guns have a use as a tool for farmers for example for shooting vermin. Less than one in 15 people in Canada own guns and that number is far smaller in cities. People who do own guns here tend to own more than one.

 

Everybody who owns a gun legally in Canada had to past a fairly easy safety test and pass a background check to get a license. Without a license you aren't allowed to purchase or possess any guns or ammo.

 

A big difference is how our laws require guns to be stored. We don't consider self defense a valid reason for owning a gun so that means you have to store your guns in a locked gun locker or safe and they can't be loaded. It's also basically impossible to get a license to carry a gun especially hand guns. You have to obtain special permission for example to transport your unloaded hand gun from your home to the gun range for target practice.

[FCP Bob 1,312]

Here are the regulations for storage for example.

 

In Canada their are 3 classes of guns. Prohibitied (think machine guns), restricted (hand guns and semi auto rifles), non-restricted ( shotguns and bolt action or lever action rifles)

 

Storage[edit]

Non-restricted firearms must be unloaded and either:

• Made inoperable with a secure locking device (such as a trigger lock); or
  
• Have bolts or bolt-carriers removed; or
  
• Securely locked in a sturdy container, cabinet or room that cannot be easily broken into
  
• Except if: (1) in areas where it is legal to fire a gun, non-restricted firearms needed for predator control can temporarily be left unlocked and operable, but they must be kept unloaded and all ammunition must be stored separately, and (2) in wilderness areas, non-restricted firearms can be left unlocked and/or operable, but must be left unloaded (ammunition may be kept nearby).
  

Restricted firearms must be unloaded and either:

• Made inoperable with a secure locking device (such as a trigger lock) and securely locked in a sturdy container, cabinet or room that cannot be easily broken into; or
  
• Locked in a vault, safe or room that was built or adapted for storing these types of firearms
  
• For automatic firearms, the bolt(s) or bolt-carrier(s) must be removed, if removable, and stored in a separate locked room that cannot be easily broken into
  

Ammunition:

• Having ammunition kept in a location where it is not available for loading the firearm, unless both the firearm and its ammunition are securely locked up is recommended, however is not required.
  

Transportation[edit]

• Non-restricted firearms left unattended in a car must be locked in the trunk or in a similar lockable compartment. If the vehicle does not have a trunk or compartment, the firearm must be placed out of sight inside the vehicle and the vehicle must be locked (same rules apply for transport of replica firearms)
  
• Non-restricted firearms must be: transported unloaded (with the exception of muzzle-loading rifles, which can be transported loaded between hunting sites so long as the firing cap or flint is removed).
  
• Restricted and prohibited firearms must be: unloaded, made inoperable with a secure locking device, and locked in a sturdy container. Prohibited firearms must also have their bolts or bolt-carriers removed, if removable.
  

[Balloon guy 158]

Given that chart showing Canada having a lot more guns per capita than almost every country ( except the USA #1) it seems that the people that do own guns must own a lot of guns.

 

So you argument become one of responsibility, because a gun owner in Canada needs only unlock their safe to gain access. Even suicidal ones.

 

Take out gang shootings and suddenly the USA isn't anywhere near as bad as the numbers imply.

 

75,000,000 gun owners( almost twice the population of Canada ) 300,000,000+ guns legally owned, the number of gun shootings is not nearly the epidemic the news media wants to imply.

 

Mass shooting in a Christian church a couple weeks ago by guy was stopped because the usher tackled him, then got his own gun from his car and held him.

 

Responsible gun owners are not the problem, nor are guns themselves.

[FCP Bob 1,312]

everybody likes to think of themselves as being responsible gun owners just like everybody is an above average driver

[Dubey 1,035]

Given that chart showing Canada having a lot more guns per capita than almost every country ( except the USA #1) it seems that the people that do own guns must own a lot of guns.

 

umm, yeah, that's what Bob said

 

 

So you argument become one of responsibility, because a gun owner in Canada needs only unlock their safe to gain access. Even suicidal ones.

 

 

Yes, a suicidal person would have to unlock their hunting rifle from a locked case, then retrieve the ammo from a separate location, then somehow figure out how to shoot themselves in the head with their hunting rifle. Sure you can see how this might be a little different than a handgun in the bedside table or the hip holster, right?

 

Take out gang shootings and suddenly the USA isn't anywhere near as bad as the numbers imply.

 

again, that's not how things work

 

75,000,000 gun owners( almost twice the population of Canada ) 300,000,000+ guns legally owned, the number of gun shootings is not nearly the epidemic the news media wants to imply.

 

 

"well, our gun death rates aren't so bad when you consider how many friggin guns we have"

 

wow, that's a new one. good job?

 

Mass shooting in a Christian church a couple weeks ago by guy was stopped because the usher tackled him, then got his own gun from his car and held him.

 

Responsible gun owners are not the problem, nor are guns themselves.

 

pro-gun people love using extremely isolated anecdotes as confirmation bias for their previously held beliefs while ignoring the actual data that overwhelmingly opposes them.

 

if you liked that story, would you believe that it was cold in New Hampshire on Tuesday? Global Warming is a hoax!

[FCP Bob 1,312]

so the KFC Twitter account only follows 11 accounts. They are all either Herbs or Spices

 

https://twitter.com/kfc/following