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Basically, I'm moving out there with intention of playing poker to supplement my income. (and build a roll)Game of choice is good old 1-2 NL. I plan on playing small MTTs when the WSOP rolls around.I'll have enough money to cover 3 months rent & other living costs, as well as seperate BR with 20 buy-in's (100$).I'll be seeking employment upon arrival to cover my rent/other costs in the coming months.My concerns:1. Is this plausible? I'm 23 years old; worst case senario I move back to Chicago and work at the family business. It is a small starting BR, but then again it won't be my main source of income.2. How are the games down there?In the summer of '07 it was great, but I've read recently that the poker economy is on a downswing. Anyone play the 1-2 NL games around the strip to comment on this?In your opinions, will the 09 WSOP be worth the wait? In terms of a boost to the poker economy...Thanks,Steveps. "Those are 1/2 buy-in's" Doesn't help.Feel free to be brutally honest... just elaborate for my benefit! Thanks

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Those are 1/2 buy ins.
It annoys me when people skim through an entire post, just to respond with a one-sentence response.If you are going to criticize, atleast provide explanation to back it up. It doesn't really help me.
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It annoys me when people skim through an entire post, just to respond with a one-sentence response.If you are going to criticize, atleast provide explanation to back it up. It doesn't really help me.
If you really don't know this, I don't think you should be moving to Vegas to play live 1-2 NL for a living.Opening bets in this game are between 10-15 dollars. Next bet is going to be 15-30 dollars. Half your stack is in the middle assuming no raises, and this is on a normal hand.Do I need to elaborate any more?
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There are casinos in Chicago. Do you win at them? If so, then you can win in Vegas at a similar rate. I don't know anything about your job prospects or skills.

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I don't mind playing on a short stack. I'm aware of typical game conditions in 1-2 NL, and aware of the implications it has.Players can be successful using a short-stack strategy in cash games. Ok. Maybe someone can answer the second question...

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You need to be able to maximize your value in big hands that you want to get paid off for. 50 BB buy ins are not large enough to do this. You definitely want to stay home a little longer and add to your bankroll through your job first. Definitely get a job in Vegas to cover living expenses, especially the first time.

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Basically, I'm moving out there with intention of playing poker to supplement my income. (and build a roll)Game of choice is good old 1-2 NL. I plan on playing small MTTs when the WSOP rolls around.I'll have enough money to cover 3 months rent & other living costs, as well as seperate BR with 20 buy-in's (100$).I'll be seeking employment upon arrival to cover my rent/other costs in the coming months.My concerns:1. Is this plausible? I'm 23 years old; worst case senario I move back to Chicago and work at the family business. It is a small starting BR, but then again it won't be my main source of income.2. How are the games down there?In the summer of '07 it was great, but I've read recently that the poker economy is on a downswing. Anyone play the 1-2 NL games around the strip to comment on this?In your opinions, will the 09 WSOP be worth the wait? In terms of a boost to the poker economy...Thanks,Steveps. "Those are 1/2 buy-in's" Doesn't help.Feel free to be brutally honest... just elaborate for my benefit! Thanks
YOU CAN BE SUCCESSFUL AT THID IN 1-2. OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE TO BE EXTREMLEY DISCIPLINED, BUT IT CAN BE DONE. HEY, YOU WANT A ROOMATE? sOUNDS LIKE A GREAT PLAN! Edited by GROHSKI21
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I don't mind playing on a short stack. I'm aware of typical game conditions in 1-2 NL, and aware of the implications it has.
Do you know what your win rate is? Are you satisfied?
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I've been a consistent winner at 1-2 NL, but this will be the first time I start a roll with it. It is a small starting bankroll, so I'm worried about a bad run wiping it out.Basically, I want to grind 1-2 nl and work... with the goal of building a bankroll that will be ready for the WSOP tourists that roll into town.

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I've been a consistent winner at 1-2 NL, but this will be the first time I start a roll with it. It is a small starting bankroll, so I'm worried about a bad run wiping it out.Basically, I want to grind 1-2 nl and work... with the goal of building a bankroll that will be ready for the WSOP tourists that roll into town.
Do you have the right pair of sunglasses?
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If you really don't know this, I don't think you should be moving to Vegas to play live 1-2 NL for a living.Opening bets in this game are between 10-15 dollars. Next bet is going to be 15-30 dollars. Half your stack is in the middle assuming no raises, and this is on a normal hand.Do I need to elaborate any more?
yea, you do. people open for 6x the big blind and then underbet the pot. whats your point?----------------------------and to the OP, if you are hellbent on doing this i think you should save up more. i don't know how you are accustomed to living, but to do this i would think you should have - $2000 just to move there, get an apartment, get settled in - $5000 for living expenses. more is better. - $5000 for poker bankroll. and really I would want 10k for a poker bankroll so I could play 2/5. playing 1/2 its going to be hard to get ahead as you won't be able to make much more than you spend to live. I've actually spent a lot of time thinking about this and I wouldn't try it with less than 20k. if you want my real advice to you; lots of people try this. very few succeed. "family business"? as in you will own a piece one day? far more likely to lead you to a much better life style than this. you're 23. did you finish college? go do that. and last there is no reason why you can't hop on a plane and go play poker for a few days, you can find a 4 day 3 night trip to vegas for like $250 online just about always.
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You need to be able to maximize your value in big hands that you want to get paid off for. 50 BB buy ins are not large enough to do this. You definitely want to stay home a little longer and add to your bankroll through your job first. Definitely get a job in Vegas to cover living expenses, especially the first time.
I've been considering staying here and working a little bit longer, atleast past the holidays.And of course the sooner I find work down there, the better.
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yea, you do. people open for 6x the big blind and then underbet the pot. whats your point?----------------------------
Point being, that if he plays 2 pots and gets away from 2 hands, he has to rebuy.He needs to buy in for the full 200-300 depending on card room rules.
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yea, you do. people open for 6x the big blind and then underbet the pot. whats your point?----------------------------and to the OP, if you are hellbent on doing this i think you should save up more. i don't know how you are accustomed to living, but to do this i would think you should have - $2000 just to move there, get an apartment, get settled in - $5000 for living expenses. more is better. - $5000 for poker bankroll. and really I would want 10k for a poker bankroll so I could play 2/5. playing 1/2 its going to be hard to get ahead as you won't be able to make much more than you spend to live. I've actually spent a lot of time thinking about this and I wouldn't try it with less than 20k. if you want my real advice to you; lots of people try this. very few succeed. "family business"? as in you will own a piece one day? far more likely to lead you to a much better life style than this. you're 23. did you finish college? go do that. and last there is no reason why you can't hop on a plane and go play poker for a few days, you can find a 4 day 3 night trip to vegas for like $250 online just about always.
Yes. My brother, first cousin and I will all have a percentage when our respective fathers retire. My family supports my decision and have told me I'll have a spot in the business.With that in mind...Lets assume I'm going out there with less than the figures you gave, but with the expectation to find a steady job for reliable income. I'll have 3 months rent/expenses set aside to allow me ample time to find a job. Realistically, even if I run like Mike Matusow and blow my BR in 2 weeks, I'll still be able to replenish it. And if I make it past the WSOP and I'm doing nothing but treading water, I can move back home.With all this in mind, is it not worth it to try? I'd rather take the opportunity while its available; I will not be able to try this when I'm working full-time at the business.
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Yes. My brother, first cousin and I will all have a percentage when our respective fathers retire. My family supports my decision and have told me I'll have a spot in the business.With that in mind...Lets assume I'm going out there with less than the figures you gave, but with the expectation to find a steady job for reliable income. I'll have 3 months rent/expenses set aside to allow me ample time to find a job. Realistically, even if I run like Mike Matusow and blow my BR in 2 weeks, I'll still be able to replenish it. And if I make it past the WSOP and I'm doing nothing but treading water, I can move back home.With all this in mind, is it not worth it to try? I'd rather take the opportunity while its available; I will not be able to try this when I'm working full-time at the business.
Sounds like you already made up your mind...Good Luck!
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TraptSteve, I'm going to be really nice to you and offer advice via aim. I tried this a few months ago with nearly the same intentions of you.if you have aim IM me, my sn is edited

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Point being, that if he plays 2 pots and gets away from 2 hands, he has to rebuy.He needs to buy in for the full 200-300 depending on card room rules.
i don't know why this is such a pet peeve of mine. in the game you described i would actually prefer to play on a short stack. you do not need to buy in full to win. and you won't necessarily win more by buying in full.
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Yes. My brother, first cousin and I will all have a percentage when our respective fathers retire. My family supports my decision and have told me I'll have a spot in the business.With that in mind...Lets assume I'm going out there with less than the figures you gave, but with the expectation to find a steady job for reliable income. I'll have 3 months rent/expenses set aside to allow me ample time to find a job. Realistically, even if I run like Mike Matusow and blow my BR in 2 weeks, I'll still be able to replenish it. And if I make it past the WSOP and I'm doing nothing but treading water, I can move back home.With all this in mind, is it not worth it to try? I'd rather take the opportunity while its available; I will not be able to try this when I'm working full-time at the business.
assuming you have really thought this thing out, you aren't giving up a spot to own part of a business (which is an invaluable opportunity), and you are a winning player, go for it.just really give thought to the rest of your life. i think the willingness to take a big risk for a big reward is an admirable trait in a person, but have a back up plan.
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i don't know why this is such a pet peeve of mine. in the game you described i would actually prefer to play on a short stack. you do not need to buy in full to win. and you won't necessarily win more by buying in full.
Really? You would prefer to play with 40-50 BB when an opening bet can be 5-8 BB? A Three bet is an all in for you. You are basically flipping at that point.I am not saying you should never buy short, but long term I don't think this makes any sense. Plus he is considering a $100 a buy in, when it's not. Even if you buy short stacked looking to double, you still have to view $200 as a buy via BR management, and he is considering playing "pro" on 10 buy ins.
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Do you have the right pair of sunglasses?
I actually bursed out laughing when I read this.Be prepared to go broke. Wasn't Daniel broke for a long time after he moved to Vegas?
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Yes. My brother, first cousin and I will all have a percentage when our respective fathers retire. My family supports my decision and have told me I'll have a spot in the business.With that in mind...Lets assume I'm going out there with less than the figures you gave, but with the expectation to find a steady job for reliable income. I'll have 3 months rent/expenses set aside to allow me ample time to find a job. Realistically, even if I run like Mike Matusow and blow my BR in 2 weeks, I'll still be able to replenish it. And if I make it past the WSOP and I'm doing nothing but treading water, I can move back home.With all this in mind, is it not worth it to try? I'd rather take the opportunity while its available; I will not be able to try this when I'm working full-time at the business.
I did this a few years back moving down to AC. I had $12k saved up and moved in with 3 friends. I was broke by the end of the year and had to move back home. But you know what, I would do it all over again if I had the chance. It was loads of fun. The funny thing was I actually won money for the year(a small five figure profit), but it was the spending that I couldnt control. I blew money like it would catch fire if I didnt spend it. I have about 400 dvds to prove it. It sounds easy, but the lifestyle really gets to you. I got in with a group of regulars who showed me the ropes and I loved it. I learned a lot. But it got boring. It became a job just like anything else. There were months that came and went and I didnt see daylight. Literally. I would wake up at about 5pm(winters in Jersey, the sun fades by then), go get some breakfast/dinner(usually at the best place ever created- WAWA), then I would head down and play until about 5am. I did this for about 2 months straight. Then I started to realize I was overspending. I started to play larger to get it back and that would make me play tighter. Not a good combo. I usually eeked out a small profit or broke even and by the end of the year I had spent more then I made and lost it all. I say go for it. Its an awesome experience win or lose. And it made me a much better player because of it. Have fun, good luck, and make sure to post every now and then to let us know how you are doing.
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