gregdon8, on Friday, May 19th, 2006, 11:38 AM, said:
punch david benyamine in the face because he is french, then fold.
DB10-2, on Thursday, June 22nd, 2006, 4:35 PM, said:
i guess we're all forgetting that we're on the button this hand. all of this action is likely to knock out some of the draws who will have to call one or more bets cold if we cap, and if players want to push their low hands (which might explain the 2 raises preflop) needing runner runner, let them pay us off.basically, we have to ask if anybody really has us beat RIGHT NOW. the only really likely hands are hands like AA32 and AAKK double suited, and they both have us crushed with a bigger set and maybe a redraw to a flush. also likely is maybe something like AK23 double suited, which we have beat right now.the key is this: my experience in omaha is that decent players raise preflop with both good low and high hands. so, isn't it most likely that two of the other aces are each in the hands of the two preflop raisers, and doesn't this mean that the chances of being up against a set of aces is reasonably low? if so, the next hand we have to worry about is someone holding KK, or JT which is the (very) mortal nuts on this board. remember also: we have a T, making the nut straight less likely and giving us a redraw to the nut straight.could we then cap the betting and get the players holding KKxx and JTxx out of the pot? it'd be an ideal scenario to play heads up against someone with something like AK23 even if they have a spade draw, since we'd curently be winning and have only to worry about the flush draw or a very unlikely A or K redraw to beat our set of queens. would someone without a redraw call one or more bets with the nut straight after this much action? i don't know, but that player would know there were many, many ways to lose the hand.lastly, if we think but aren't sure that we've gotten ourselves heads up against a set of aces and/or a straight, should we fold or plan to make crying calls on two more streets if we don't improve? i think an argument can be made for folding here, but maybe it's not nearly as easy as it looks on its face. maybe capping is the right play and if a flush comes all bets are off for our hand. DN?
It's almost too big of a pot to ignore when we're holding a set. Cap it and look for the board to pair. I seriously think you're looking at a low, an AK, a flush and a JT. If we hit our boat and take a beating from AA or KK, so be it.
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