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[StilettoNole]

What is your range for calling a stupid push by a short stacker pre-flop? I had seen this guy push A-4 off, 2-2, Q-Js, and 10-7 off before. He is your classic buy in for short-only-pushing-trying-to-double-up-hit-and-run-piece-of-sh*t.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)SB ($24.10)BB ($30.85)UTG ($6.50)MP ($25.35)CO ($29.20)Hero ($25.50)Preflop: Hero is Button with , . UTG raises to $6.5 (All-In), 2 folds, Hero...Also, if we are going for it here, should we be raising to isolate or just calling?Thanks.

[ROBBBIGG]

On the button I'm calling with 8s+ vs a short stacker push @ 25NL. I don't raise all-in because I'm not thrilled about getting 9s in preflop for full stacks when anyone who would raise a flat call beats 9s. I do the same with Aces.

[sactownjoey]

Meh. What's the math on this one? His range seems to be infinite but is the payoff worth the likely coin flip?

[ROBBBIGG]

sactownjoey, on Thursday, February 14th, 2008, 10:51 AM, said:

Meh. What's the math on this one? His range seems to be infinite but is the payoff worth the likely coin flip?

If you think villain is shoving a range you're more likely to beat than lose to, then you call because it's +EV. AA and KK are also less likely to open shove from utg. These villains are usually awful and shoving any pair, AJ+, KQ, and on a sliding scale of how bad he is, lots of weird garbage hands. Based on what I've seen these guys show up with @ 25NL I think 8s+ and AQs, AK+ are calls.Today I've seen these guys show up with Kings, 2s, Q10off, and Q3suited.

[Acid_Knight]

StilettoNole, on Thursday, February 14th, 2008, 10:43 AM, said:

I had seen this guy push A-4 off, 2-2, Q-Js, and 10-7 off before.

And you're asking if you should call with 99? WTF.Yes, you get 2 "WTF" responses from me today

[StilettoNole]

Acid_Knight, on Thursday, February 14th, 2008, 11:38 AM, said:

And you're asking if you should call with 99? WTF.Yes, you get 2 "WTF" responses from me today

Yeah, I know. Just making sure everyone calls here. He woke up with jacks this time... no being results based, I just wanted to make sure that every calls here. Depending on villain and what I've seen him do before, I am calling 88+, A-Q+I was just checking that everyone else felt that way.

[drcossack]

StilettoNole, on Thursday, February 14th, 2008, 1:43 PM, said:

What is your range for calling a stupid push by a short stacker pre-flop? I had seen this guy push A-4 off, 2-2, Q-Js, and 10-7 off before. He is your classic buy in for short-only-pushing-trying-to-double-up-hit-and-run-piece-of-sh*t.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)SB ($24.10)BB ($30.85)UTG ($6.50)MP ($25.35)CO ($29.20)Hero ($25.50)Preflop: Hero is Button with , . UTG raises to $6.5 (All-In), 2 folds, Hero...Also, if we are going for it here, should we be raising to isolate or just calling?Thanks.

Acid_Knight, on Thursday, February 14th, 2008, 2:38 PM, said:

And you're asking if you should call with 99? WTF.Yes, you get 2 "WTF" responses from me today

lol.This can be described with the following: Imcallingsofastyoumightaswellcastmeforthexorcistbecauseyourheadisgoingtobespinning.

[Acid_Knight]

drcossack, on Thursday, February 14th, 2008, 12:33 PM, said:

Imcallingsofastyoumightaswellcastmeforthexorcistbecauseyourheadisgoingtobespinning.

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[drcossack]

Acid_Knight, on Thursday, February 14th, 2008, 3:46 PM, said:

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WecantallbeasgoodasyouwhentypingwithnospacingbetweenwordsBesides, that was the best analogy I could think of.