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After receiving that heartwarming letter, we typed up this response:   Dear Jordyn   Thank you very much for writing to the Whalers organization. You may not know this being just a 6 year old gir

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open lineup spots = parity   ultimate goal is to play none on none, tie game.

Skjei is cheap at $1, $1.25, $1.50 next 3 years

 

Voracek+Weber are rentals, only good for this year

 

I actually had quite a few decent offers for Skjei, most of them good fwds at similar contracts, but I wanted to go more for this year, hence why I dealt him anyway. That, plus NYR gp really limits his prodctn for me this year

 

so is every single rental that was traded in last week or so

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sugar coat it all you want arp

 

sugar coat what?

Someone asked me and I offered my take. You and Dale are having your own little conversation.

 

Why were you asking about Skjei constantly if he was such a low return for a guy who is dumping one year rentals?

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cause hes a filler

thats why i wouldn't give you what you wanted for him

hey its just my opinion but ask yourself why you dont respond to anyone elses response

i post in this forum very rarely when i see something that tweeks me i respond

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hey its just my opinion but ask yourself why you dont respond to anyone elses response

I dont respond to anyone elses response? What does that mean, I find it hard to understand you at times in these posts, sorry.

 

If you are upset about our trade talk, you asked me what I wanted for him.

I told you the players I liked.

You said you wouldnt trade those guys.

I told you I had other interest in Skjei, in deals I would rather make since they make more sense for me.

I told you that since you and I are both going after rentals and trying to win now, a Skjei deal would not make sense for us.

You said you would put in a counter offer. You never made one for Skjei, not one single offer over the course of days.

You then told me you had 3 different trades for D. I said good luck.

 

What did I do wrong?

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This is probably the second most lopsided trade I've seen since I've been in the league.

 

Hows that Subban trade working out for you?

Was it $1 for Klefbom? Not so good?

Wheeler? Not him either?

 

Ok.

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sugar coat what?

Someone asked me and I offered my take. You and Dale are having your own little conversation.

 

Why were you asking about Skjei constantly if he was such a low return for a guy who is dumping one year rentals?

 

and this is a response to your rely on dubeys post

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Hows that Subban trade working out for you?

Was it $1 for Klefbom? Not so good?

Wheeler? Not him either?

 

Ok.

Making a lopsided trade is the goal, isn't it? I mean, if you're on the right side of it.

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in not upset at all not even a bit

you did NOTHING wrong

you burned him on the trade in my opinion

 

so this to you is the worst trade you have ever seen in AHL?

Interesting. I would wholly disagree, and while I think I did VERY well in this trade, I have seen ones with years of ramifications. If this trade is a complete rip off and Skjei never does a thing, I get 2 good players for a year at most. Neither one is a top player, to think they are is to buy into their names and not look at their stats.

 

I've seen teams trade for cornerstone players by giving up nothing, and then getting them signed to 3/5/franchise contracts.

 

Even if I gave him nothing at all, the best this will do for me is improve my lineup for this year. And I think we can at least agree 3yrs of Skjei is not nothing, since at least 6 different teams made me offers on Skjei.

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Making a lopsided trade is the goal, isn't it? I mean, if you're on the right side of it.

 

Im not trying to make a lopsided trade, Im trying to make one that works for both of us. To him, Voracek+Weber were useless, just like 18-19 money is useless to Daniel, and anyone with a heartbeat is useless to Broadway.

I would rather not make a lopsided deal, and I truly hope Skjei does well for them. Why burn your partners in trades, Id rather we both win! I like the trades where one team is going for it, and the other isnt, it makes it so much easier to deal.

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and this is a response to your rely on dubeys post

 

you mean my "reply" to Dubey?

What was wrong with that, was what I said not true? Are Voracek+Weber not rentals? Is Skjei not $1, $1.25, $1.50 contract, and is that not a pretty good value for a 39pt D from last year? I think Skjei wont be as good this year, but will be good again in the following years.

 

Since you seem so "tweeked" by all this and made this such a public fuss today, I'm curious, what was your offer going to be for Skjei?

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Hows that Subban trade working out for you?

Was it $1 for Klefbom? Not so good?

Wheeler? Not him either?

 

Ok.

 

You keep bringing up the Subban/Wheeler trade when the topic of bad trades comes up. I gave up some decent players in that deal AND at the time neither Wheeler nor Subban were the players they've since become.

 

Picking up Klefbom for $1 after I saw he was being dropped was nice. Anyone could've done the same.

 

This is an awful trade, but you're on the right side of it.

 

Yes, Skjei's salary is cheap...that's often the case with guys you pick up at auction for 50 cents. I'm not sure what Winning Combination was thinking here, but it's their decision to make and if they really wanted Skjei (maybe he's a family friend) then they got him and good on them. The $1.50 they got in the deal is pretty much worthless imo if you're gonna pay $13.75 for Voracek and Weber at auction and then trade them for so little in return. I'm sure you would've traded Skjei before the draft for less than half that cash.

 

And in all honesty, if Winning Combination thinks they're in rebuild mode then they will always be in rebuild mode. They had some good pieces and I thought they picked up a lot of nice players at the auction. Before this trade I thought they would challenge for 1st in their division.

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you mean my "reply" to Dubey?

What was wrong with that, was what I said not true? Are Voracek+Weber not rentals? Is Skjei not $1, $1.25, $1.50 contract, and is that not a pretty good value for a 39pt D from last year? I think Skjei wont be as good this year, but will be good again in the following years.

 

Since you seem so "tweeked" by all this and made this such a public fuss today, I'm curious, what was your offer going to be for Skjei?

 

i couldn't even give you a offer after the players you told me you where interested in (jvr larkin pearson an tarasenko)

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My two cents:

 

Is the trade fair?

 

Of course it is, meaning there was no collusion or misrepresentation of assets or anything.

 

Did Arp win this trade?

 

Absolutetly...I know its said often that WOW, I would of given more for those two assets. Well then we all should of tried harder..Arp did a good job and made a great trade for himself.

 

I am in other pools where we vote on trades..Would I vote to veto this trade? Absolutely not..

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My two cents:

 

Is the trade fair?

 

Of course it is, meaning there was no collusion or misrepresentation of assets or anything.

 

Did Arp win this trade?

 

Absolutetly...I know its said often that WOW, I would of given more for those two assets. Well then we all should of tried harder..Arp did a good job and made a great trade for himself.

 

I am in other pools where we vote on trades..Would I vote to veto this trade? Absolutely not..

 

Grow some balls!

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I have seen trades that where a lot more lopsided than this one

A trade recently involving Duchene comes mind

I remember one involving Boychuk awhile back that was way out there

 

I really like Arp's side on this one but he only got 1 year rentals

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The Duchene one got, I think, 1 post. (from me!)

This one has now pretty much taken up 25% of the lifetime of this thread.

 

You are the man..I love your creativity in trades..

 

Dale and Ortenzio are the same..Having said that , whenever you offer me a trade I have to be very careful because you are too smart.

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