fatshaft

Yes we know, so why slate one but defend the other?

...because the two were different how?

not really, as the issue has just been brought up again

Which brings it right back to Rob's question, what was the difference other than one is his friend, and one cloearly isn't?

Seems that Daniel has now flip flopped totally on this issue according to his latest comments on Russ Hamilton & golf. It would seem that Daniel would now take Ram's side on this issue if it were to be gone over again today.

I believe this has been settled, does anyone know the outcome?

Glad you agree with something Volume, most of what you say is just noise

Very true

no, he's hardly sandbagging if he's won over a $million

This is a really bad counter-analogy. First of all, to compare by Ram/Marc's story, then the girl would have shot around 20 as well, rather than the expected 10. I agree with the asking the girl bit, but even here Ram and Marc's story diverge somewhat, in that Marc claims it was asked pre-round, Ram claims mid-round.Now we are lead to believe that Ivey usually shoots around 90ish, and judging by the initial reports he shot in the 70's. This would fit your analogy somewhat, but we are now hearing he still shot around 90, and it was actually Ram that was playing poorly. If so, as I said above, t

TBF, I'm not saying it does, but it clearly shows JJ showing his distaste for Ivey's actions, and indeed Ivey looking uncomfortable at the line of the discussion.

Harry is on THM, JJ is on the YouTube video

grow up. I believe in fair play and honesty, ergo I am a fool? Fair enough, rather that than a sad apologist.

Vicky Coren, Harry Demetriou, Joe Beevers, Ariston, Sam Torrance, John Juanda, will that do?

On to evidence of that video from the Aussie millions where all the big guns from FT go golfing, Ivey looks like he has a very poor swing, and an 18 h/cap would seem to be optomistic. I would be very interested in the actual scores that were taken, as it was matchplay there won't be scores, but they will all have an idea of what approxiamately was scored. If Ivey has scored around 90+ then I switch sides.