Napa_Don 688 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Colts. I know it's super irrational, but so is everything else about sports, so, screw it. This won't effect me past tonight though. I also lost a lot of money betting on this game between squares and taking Den -1. Edit: And the inevitable "Wilson is the best QB of that class and he didn't even go in the first round(where Colts QB Luck was taken first overall" discussion that will be taking place over the next eleventy thousand years. I just want "my guys" to be the best. It's stupid, I know. Link to post Share on other sites
Tiltinagain 973 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Lol, this game had nothing to do with Peyton manning. Which is one of the reasons they lost. Dude is 11 - 12 in the post season. The greatest players put their team on their backs and win in the biggest games. Peyton does not. You're insane if you think both sides are equally outraged. Not to mention the insane reasons the right get outraged. Gay marriage, abortion, women's rights, weed, war on Christmas. Claiming religious persecution against Christians while slamming any Muslim person. Just stupid shit See above. See above indeed. As brv said you are so ridiculously biased it's not worth arguing with you over. Plus, I don't care all that much. Link to post Share on other sites
hank213 1,823 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Really? Why? What makes you like him? Colts love? Geography can't be the reason he seems like an affable fellow. i used to be broncos fan since i was born there and, as a kid, spent a couple months a year there as well. then they blew their 3rd sb attempt against the 49ers when i was in hs and i washed my hands of them. Link to post Share on other sites
iTommyGavin81 288 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 The 3 AFC championship games he won were pretty big games 1 Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Which is one of the reasons they lost. Dude is 11 - 12 in the post season. The greatest players put their team on their backs and win in the biggest games. Peyton does not. That may be a statement that works for the NBA where 5 guys play offense and defense but it doesn't remotely hold up for the NFL where 22 players play part time. If only Peyton could also block for himself and make people stop fumbling and tackle Percy Harvin, then he could put people on his back and win the biggest games. But it's good for this thread to have a skip bayless, so thanks for playing. Tom Brady is 8-8 in his last 16 playoff games. If only he could remember how he used to put his team on his back! 4 Link to post Share on other sites
frautotenkinder 1,025 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I should have asked for the Prince story in the divorce. See, for me Black Swan is faring very well in my memory. This is one of the only movies that I feel like I understand some of its visual language during my first viewing. From the naming of the character Lily, to the dressing of Nina in white, and then shades of grey, and then in the final scenes black--when her madness totally overwhelms her. Nina's mother is dressed in dark tones always, as is Lily. There was one shot in particular I keep thinking about: the sequence with Nina practicing by herself, but in the studio. The piano accompanist leaves, and eventually the lights go out. The scene had begun with light, and human company--and Nina's costume looks light grey. As she runs through the facility, further and further frightened there less and less of a color contrast. Eventually she find Lily, banging the hell out of the director--when the camera cuts back to Nina, her costume almost looks white again. A random tale of two celebrity sightings:The day before Thanksgiving (Wednesday) my husband and a friend went to a Black Swan screening on the Fox lot. (William Fox theater, a smaller theater). The screening is supposed to start at 6:30. It's 6:35, the theater's half full--no biggie--screenings start late all the time. Now it's 6:45, the theater is full except for two seats behind my husband, and the pasty abused PR guy keeps thanking everyone for their patience. My husband and his friend are anxious to see the movie, anxious to start their vacation, and wondering who has the juice to hold up the screening. It's 6:55 and the door to the theater opens, and my husband sneaks a peek back, to see the douchebag who's kept everyone waiting. Oh. My. Purple. Lord. It's Prince. He's wearing the suit, the heels, the big A-list sunglasses, and he has the inappropriately young female companion. He fulfills all the star cliches you want--he walks in, sits down--boom there go the lights, pow up comes the Fox Searchlight logo, and all my husband can hear is people all over the theater whispering, "PrincePrincePrince". It's a pretty visceral movie, and knowing He Would Die 4 U is sitting behind U makes everything feel weirder. Prince does the A-list thing and leaves right before the movie ends. After the movie, my husband and friend are stunned. At the movie, and the Prince, and holy wow LA, etc. They get all the way back to the car (on the Fox lot, the parking lot is not close to the screening rooms, and is a noticeable walk) and notice my husband has managed to lose his new bluetooth. They walk all the way back to the theater, the door's are locked, they're looking around for security, and my husband sees a PR rep he knows talking to a guy. He goes over to ask the rep to see if she had a key, or radio to get ahold of someone in security, explaining about his bluetooth. The bystander gave him a tip on where to call for security, and wished him luck in the bluetooth search. Walking away, my husband pinged in his head "Hey, I think that's the Prison Break guy." It was, and Wentworth Miller will always be a weird asterisk when I think about Black Swan and Prince. Link to post Share on other sites
iTommyGavin81 288 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Yes this narrative of Super Bowl or bust is getting silly. If Peyton had the defense Brady had in his first 5 years he would've won more Super Bowls. If my boy Rodgers had any kind of defense the last 3 years he would already have 1 more at least. Joe Flacco won a Super Bowl. Brad Johnson did. Why? Defense. Whole team concept. The colts had ok defenses in his tenure there but not dominant. The broncos defense is unremarkable and on top of that were missing Von Miller. Seattles defense was nasty tonight. Not sure why I'm being a Peyton apologist. I've never liked him. I guess I just don't like irrational narratives 1 Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 The Dolphins have probably played 4 playoff games total during peyton's whole career. just PLAYING 23 playoff games is astounding. I'm sure Titly is a Montana fan or something and brings those inherent biases to this discussion. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
iTommyGavin81 288 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 He's a niners fan for sure. But kaepernik sucks because he always folds in the playoffs so he doesn't have any Super Bowl wins to look forward to 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Tom Brady is 8-8 in his last 16 playoff games. If only he could remember how he used to put his team on his back! It's interesting, the more and more important (and prolific) the New England offense has become, the worse the Patriots have done in the playoffs. Brady got outsized credit for the success of teams who's defense were the focal point, and he gets no blame for the struggles of teams that rely more on his success. Instead of crushing manning, I think instead credit should be given to Seattle. They were, statistically, the best defense against the past of the last ten years. Their defense is incredibly good. They jumped ontop of this team early, and kept causing turnovers. They deserve maximum credit for that. I thought going into the game that Seattle was the much better team, but because of the Manning Narrative, and the hype about the success of the offense, the public perception was that Denver was better than what they were. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 also, Young > Montana. There, I said it Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 We have got to stop talking about this altogether. It's taking up way too much of my self-control to keep my mouth shut on this. Let's just agree that Peyton just "isn't a big game QB". He sucks! And leave it at that. This is going to make me inrationally angry if we keep discussing it. How about them Cubbies?! This is our year. I can feel it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I'm SO happy that they didn't just throw the MVP at the QB for no reason like they did in the Eli Super Bowls. There needs to be WAY more defensive MVP's. I think this year should have been split between a defender and Harvin, but I'm ok with just the LB. Link to post Share on other sites
JubilantLankyLad 1,957 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Quick, someone alert loogie: Link to post Share on other sites
iTommyGavin81 288 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Young can't be better than Montana. 4 Super Bowls to 1. That's all you need to know. Young just wasn't a big game quarterback. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 2 Link to post Share on other sites
SuitedAces21 2,722 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites
JubilantLankyLad 1,957 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I've got such a raging clue right now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Tiltinagain 973 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 The 3 AFC championship games he won were pretty big games LOL at all you asshats apologizing for Peyton. The dude has crazy TD and Passing numbers during an era where the defensive backs are essentially playing flag football. During the regular season you're playing a bunch of scrubs at least half the time. In the playoffs you're playing the best and then the cream of the crop in the Super Bowl. I would take Marino over Peyton any day of the week because Marino put up Madden numbers when defenses actually played defense against receivers. Of course it's a team game. Of course the QB doesn't block for himself or play defense. But the best QB's rise to the occasion and find a way in the Super Bowl. Hell, someone mentioned Aaron Rodgers. Green Bay had horrible defenses when he won but Rodgers played his ass off. Brady and Brees have done the same. Peyton is great against mediocre competition and fades against great competition. Link to post Share on other sites
iTommyGavin81 288 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 LOL at all you asshats apologizing for Peyton. The dude has crazy TD and Passing numbers during an era where the defensive backs are essentially playing flag football. During the regular season you're playing a bunch of scrubs at least half the time. In the playoffs you're playing the best and then the cream of the crop in the Super Bowl. I would take Marino over Peyton any day of the week because Marino put up Madden numbers when defenses actually played defense against receivers. Of course it's a team game. Of course the QB doesn't block for himself or play defense. But the best QB's rise to the occasion and find a way in the Super Bowl. Hell, someone mentioned Aaron Rodgers. Green Bay had horrible defenses when he won but Rodgers played his ass off. Brady and Brees have done the same. Peyton is great against mediocre competition and fades against great competition. No. Just....no 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Napa Lite 3,278 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I should have just said I'll be done yesterday. Brvy, this week is going to suck. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 No. Just....no The best QBs find a way! Just like Brees did in every year but 2009 and Brady did with mediocre defenses in 2007 and 2010. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Yeah, Drew Brees just knows how to win.. even though he's 6-5 in playoff games and has made the playoffs in only 6 of 13 seasons of his career. LOLCONFIRMATIONBIAS. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SuitedAces21 2,722 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Tiltys that guy on this one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
InternetExplorer 2,609 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 intangibles... heart. that's what the great QBs have. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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