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I imagine we have some wrestling fans in this forum. People say that it is childish but I think it is great entertainment. Its better than most tv shows out there becuase it is new every week, there are no reruns, the athletes are very athletic and are great actors (despite when people say they aren't), its real (it may be scripted, but the actions and moves are real) and it is great tv.This Wrestlemania was from Detroit and it was great. Here's a recap of it:The money in the bank ladder match:Great match. Jeff Hardy was on top of the big ladder in the ring and Edge was lying on a ladder outside the ring that was held up between the ring apron and the stands. Jeff did a leg drop off the top ladder and through Edge's gut. The ladder Edge was on snapped in half and Edge needed to be taked out on a stretcher. Mr. Kennedy eventually won the match.The Great Khali vs. Kane:Not a great match. Khali domminated most of it and won with his two handed chokeslam. Chris Benoit vs. MVP (Montel Vontavious Porter):Suprisingly, MVP was dominating most but Benoit eventually won after his diving headbutt.The Undertaker vs. Batista for the World Heavyweight ChampionshipThis was a terrific match. I was expecting Undertaker to completley destroy but Batista brought his best and was great. He pulled off his spear and Batista bomb, but lost to the Undertaker's Last ride, chokeslam, then finally the tombstone piledriver. Undertaker is now 15-0 at Wrestlemania.The ECW Originals (Tommy Dreamer, Sabu, The Sandman and Rob Van Dam) vs. The New Breed (Elijah Burke, Marcus Cor Von, Matt Striker and Kevin Thorn) This was a better match than I expected. Not terrific but not boring either. ECW originals won after a Five-Star From Splash from RVD to Matt Striker. Battle of the Billionaires (Trump's Lashley vs. McMahon's Umaga-the losing billionaire has to shave their head) with special guest referee Stone Cold Steve Austin.After Austin was rough with Umaga for not breaking a hold in the corner, Umaga Samoan spiked him. Shane McMahon came in and did a Coast to Coast (jumped from one turnbuckle to another and kicked a trash can in Lashley's face) to Lashley. Stone Cold came back and stunned him, and beat up Shane. Lashley won and Stone Cold stunned Vince while Lashley and Trump shaved his head. Stone Cold then stunned Trump and left. Melina vs. Ashley Massaro in a lumberjill match for the WWE women's championshipAll the divas surrounded the ring and Melina eventually won. Not a great match altogether. John Cena vs. Shawn Michaels for the WWE Championship This was a great match. HBK was dominating at the beginning then Cena came back. After they each did they finishing moves a couple of times, Cena got Michael's in the middle of the ring with the STFU and HBK tapped out. Cena won in a great match.All in all this was a great Wrestlemania. Any thoughts?

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The moves are not real. The "ladder" that snapped in half was probably made of foam.
you could not be more wrong. wrestling is scripted, but the stuff is real. and the ladder was not made of foam. you could tell by the reactions of everybody- including the wrestlers and the referees and the commentators.
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The "ladder" that snapped in half was probably made of foam.
I don't think so, saw a clip of it on YouTube before WWE had them removed and holy crap it looked like the guy landed on him wrong and it hurt.
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Why did you put this in the "sports" forum?I thought that WWE is just "entertainment."
It's sports entertainment...There is precedent for posting wrestling threads in this forum as done by one of the forums mods.
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Why did you put this in the "sports" forum?I thought that WWE is just "entertainment."
if you don't think that the wrestlers are athletes and what they do isn't a sport, then you haven't seen one match
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Showstopper, you crack me up. I still watch wrestling, but you have actually chronicled all of the moves, analyzed it like an actual sporting event. Big screw up during the broadcast, when they were advertising vengeance Shawn Michaels voice was yelling about revenge for his loss- he hadn't lost yet. Kind of blew the suspense, easily one of his best matches ever and I knew he would lose because they actually let it out during the broadcast. Pretty stupid. I still think his Razor Ramon ladder match is his best ever, but it was close. I wonder if good old Razor watched it between lines of blow? Somehow I doubt they get PPV at roach motels. Gotta save room for 16 low quality porn channels. Speakinf of that, what is it with shitty motels and porn? No clean towels, but all the porn a man can handle. Does being broke equal I don't want towels, but crave inordinate amounts of porn? I never understood that. Anybody?

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Showstopper, you crack me up. I still watch wrestling, but you have actually chronicled all of the moves, analyzed it like an actual sporting event. Big screw up during the broadcast, when they were advertising vengeance Shawn Michaels voice was yelling about revenge for his loss- he hadn't lost yet. Kind of blew the suspense, easily one of his best matches ever and I knew he would lose because they actually let it out during the broadcast. Pretty stupid. I still think his Razor Ramon ladder match is his best ever, but it was close. I wonder if good old Razor watched it between lines of blow? Somehow I doubt they get PPV at roach motels. Gotta save room for 16 low quality porn channels. Speakinf of that, what is it with shitty motels and porn? No clean towels, but all the porn a man can handle. Does being broke equal I don't want towels, but crave inordinate amounts of porn? I never understood that. Anybody?
Wait...are you telling me I could be the next JR?
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What do you think was the greatest match of all time, Showstopper? There has to be some historical importance to the Hulk/Giant body slam, but my personal pick would be Mick Foley vs the Undertaker in Hell in a Cell. That match was brutal, and marked the uptick in extreme stunts in the WWE. I swear to god the first time I saw that, I thought Foley was seriously hurt when he fell off the top of the ring. It's not often that Wrestling can fool me, but that match did.

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What do you think was the greatest match of all time, Showstopper? There has to be some historical importance to the Hulk/Giant body slam, but my personal pick would be Mick Foley vs the Undertaker in Hell in a Cell. That match was brutal, and marked the uptick in extreme stunts in the WWE. I swear to god the first time I saw that, I thought Foley was seriously hurt when he fell off the top of the ring. It's not often that Wrestling can fool me, but that match did.
honestly, the mick/taker HIAC match wasn't that great. It was all based around two sick bumps, but it didn't tell much of a story. The Cactus Jack/HHH street fight match at RR00 was miles better. It's very hard to say what the best WWfE match of all time is, but my top ten would look like this(in no particular order)Bret/Owen WM12HBK/Taker HIAC1(from Badd Blood 97)Bret/Austin WM13Angle/Lesner WM19Angle/Benoit RR03Dynamite Kid/Tiger Mask from 82 in MSGHBK/ Jeff Jarrett IYH1Benoit/HHH/HBK WM20Jericho/HBK WM21Austin/HBK KoTC 97I can definetly come up with other great matches, but those are just off teh top of my head
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I started watching wrestling in like 2000, so I didn't grow up watching the classics. Of course I have seen the Foley/Taker match and it was great. It was really one of the moments were you realized that all the matches after this one would be different. Since 2000, I love most of the extreme matches. The TLC's and the money in the bank matches are my favorites. I also really love the Stone Cold vs. Rock match from the Wrestlemania a couple of years ago (I can't remember which one).

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I obviously don't care about being called a loser for posting in this thread, I think I probably have over 200 posts combined in all the Survivor threads in the Tv Forum which is bad enough.Whether you like wrestling or not it is fun to watch. I haven't been following WWE recently but I was a big fan for a long time especially when guys like The Rock and Stone Cold were in their hey days. The skits and interviews outside of the matches is what made these shows. For example all the Stone Cold arguments with Vince McMahon like when Stone Cold drove down in a beer truck and sprayed Vince with a beer hose was pure genius. Also all the Rock interviews where he made Michael Cole put a Rock shirt over his head were classic. The funniest thing I've ever seen in my life was when Vince made William Regal join the Vince McMahon kiss my a_ss club. Also, about 7 or 8 years ago I got a chance to go to RAW in San Jose, and it was the most fun at an event I've ever had in my life, way better than any NFL, MLB, or NBA game I've been to. In the last match Stone Cold was wrestling some guy (I forget who it was), and HHH came out apparently making a comeback after a long injury period and kicked the crap out of Stone Cold, finishing the show by giving him the pedigree on the announcer table. Awesome show. Tickets are way over-priced though which is why I haven't been back for another event.

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