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Here are Ed's answers with his reasoningThink about POT EQUITY... how often will I win this hand against x opponents. If I have five opponents, and my hand will win 20% of the time, that is a good situation.Another important point is that being suited becomes more important (because pots are always multiway), and being dominated is somewhat less of a concern (because they raise on many hands and because there are so many people in the pot with you).Finally, the "don't cold-call raises... 3-bet or fold" idea does not apply as much to these game conditions. That idea is much strong when the game is tight... when you are fighting over the blind money. Here, you make your overlay from all the stupid calls your opponents make, not from the blind money. You should often let them call.1. Two limpers to an MP who raises. You are next (two off the button) with 44.Call. There are already three in the hand, and given how loose these guys are, you will usually have two more. Pocket pairs play great against this crew because they are willing to lose SO much after the flop. Folding this hand is throwing money away.2. UTG raises and gets four cold-callers. You are in the SB with KQs.Raise. Despite your position, I think you should 3-bet. Your hand has so much POT EQUITY against five others that I think you need to push your edge.3. UTG raises and gets four cold-callers. You are on the button with A5s.Call. With this many players, your suited ace will probably win more than its share despite the chance that you are dominated. It won't win a whole lot more than its share, though, so it is probably better to call and see the flop rather than pushing your small edge now. Raising is probably better than folding.4. You have K9s UTG.Call. This is a somewhat weak hand for UTG, but it is only one "notch" weaker than hands I play UTG at more typical tables (A9s and KTs). I think it shows a profit against this crew. You have some high card strength, so you don't mind as much if it comes back raised. I am out of position, but I still want to play this hand six-handed for one or two bets against people who play poorly after the flop. Folding and raising are reasonably close to calling EV-wise I think.5. Folded to you in MP (four off the button) with 33.Call. I included this example because it runs specifically counter to the advice given in HPFAP. In a tougher game (explains HPFAP), you should probably fold 33 from MP if it is folded to you. You can't expect multiway action, and you are concerned about being isolated. If you played, you'd probably raise to take a shot at the blinds. But in this game, you can limp in now and still have a six-handed pot. Trying to steal the blinds is silly in this game. Pocket pairs are again too good to fold.6. Four players limp, and you have Q7s on the button.Call. This is almost straight out of HPFAP. These guys play terribly, and you have a chance to sneak in with a barely-worth-it hand and see the flop. Do it. Folding is close, and raising is probably bad (but not that bad).7. UTG+1 raises, one player cold-calls, and you have AQo in MP (three off the button).Raise. The AQ Test from Feeney's book applies to a typical game and a tight UTG raiser. Here, the raiser is not tight, and the game anything but typical. You should 3-bet to get more money in the pot and to improve your position. You are probably better off playing this hand four ways for three bets, acting second-to-last than six or seven ways for two bets, acting in the middle. Calling is better than folding.8. Two players limp, and you are on the button with K6s.Call. See Q7s. You have position and a reasonable hand. See a flop against these clowns.9. Five players limp, the SB completes, and you have 99 in the BB.Raise. You have six opponents and a MUCH better than 1/7 chance to win this hand. Your position is terrible, but your edge is too big to miss out.10. Three players limp. You have AQo in the SB.Raise. Same with the 99 hand. You win this hand WAY more often than your share. Despite terrible position, you have to put the money in.11. UTG raises and gets five cold-callers. You have 73s in the BB.Call. Your hand is not terrific, but it is good enough to take a flop getting 13-to-1 preflop and playing against poor players. I'd probably call with any two suited in this spot.12. Two players limp, an MP raises, and an LP 3-bets. You have JJ on the button.Raise. This runs counter to the "if it's three bets cold to you, fold JJ" statement in HPFAP... but again, that applies to decent players with reasonable raising standards. I'm not going to fold... my POT EQUITY is too high (coupled with how much extra money you make after the flop when you spike a set). The question is whether to raise or call. I think that's a reasonably close decision (not one to sit up all night thinking about). I think raising might be marginally better because you probably do have an edge before the flop.13. Two players limp, and you have A8s in the cut-off.Raise. You have a good hand, position, and you will win WAY more than your share against your two opponents with almost-random hands.14. Three players limp, and the button raises. You have K7o in the BB.Fold. Bugs Bunny mentioned that he thought this was in here so I could say to fold one of these hands. He was right. I think you should probably fold here. Calling is really not that bad, though, IMO. In fact, calling may be correct for exceptional postflop players. The fold would be clearer if your hand had less high card value... say K2o.15. Four players limp, and the cutoff raises. You have ATs on the button.Raise. I'd 3-bet for value. You have the button and a great hand. You might be dominated, but since your opponent will raise so many hands, it isn't all that likely. I think you will win this hand well more than your share (1/6) of the time.16. Three players limp, and you have ATo in the cutoff.Call. I think calling and raising are close here, but calling is probably slightly better. You probably do have an edge preflop, so by calling you are giving up some money. But I think your edge is modest... and the advantage of having someone bet into you if you flop a ten is very significant. I think you should clearly raise AJo, and clearly not raise A9o... ATo is on the border. If you wanted to argue for a raise, I wouldn't put up much of a fight. I would if you wanted to fold, though... 17. UTG raises, and you are next (UTG+1) with ATs.Call. This is too much hand to fold at this table. The situation is about as unpleasant as it could be (well, at least it's not three bets), but I'd still call. ATs is a real big hand when your opponents play so loosely. Call, and hope everything goes according to play (four more people cold-call behind you). I don't like raising, because it does exactly what you don't want to do... force your opponents to tighten up. Fighting over the blind money is useless (hell, most of it is going to get dropped anyway)... and, though I like my hand, I don't think it is worth much in a heads-up battle against the UTG raiser.18. UTG raises, four people call, and you have 86o in the BB.Call. Similar to the 73s hand. Another important consideration when making these calls is WHERE the raise comes from. In this hand (and the 73s hand), the raise comes from UTG... that is, from your left. With hands like this, you will often flop a weak draw - bottom pair, a gutshot, a backdoor flush or straight draw, etc. With these hands, you would really like to be able to see the turn for one bet. When the preflop raiser (and likely flop bettor) is on your left, you check, the bettor bets, and then the whole table acts before you do. If everyone calls or folds, then you can call, closing the action. This is very advantageous RELATIVE POSITION when you have marginal hands like 73s and 86o. In fact, if the SB had raised each of these hands, rather than UTG, I probably would have folded both of them.19. UTG raises. UTG+1 cold-calls, and you are next (five off the button) with KJs.Call. Similar argument to hand 17. This is too much hand to fold at this table. Yes, you might be dominated, but your winning chances are just too good when you aren't.20. You raise UTG with QQ. Four people cold-call, and the BB 3-bets.Raise. I think you need to put in the final bet against these guys... your edge is too big. Against a tougher table that just happened to feature four cold-callers this hand, you should probably just call... using your position RELATIVE TO THE RAISER to force the field to call two cold on the flop (or the turn) when he bets. Your preflop edge against a tougher field is smaller (because their hands are better), and the chance to raise after the flop gains value. But when your opponents play awful hands before the flop, and terribly after it, I think you give up too much when you miss bets like this.

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As you may have picked up, Ed was trying to get after some of the prevailing weak-tightness of many 2+2ers, who were (and in my opinion still are) placing an undue emphasis on hand raises and fear of domination. Nevertheless, it looks like I suffer from the same problem, missing 8 out of 20, for a whopping 60% and D- 8). With only one exception (16), Ed had a more aggressive position than I had.

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3 wrong...Where did you find this quiz?
two plus twowww.twoplustwo.comburied deep within the micro limit stuff. cant remember the name of the post. part of a bigass word document i can email you if you'd like
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