Big Combo Draw

[AlphaOmega 0]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Button ($114.20)Hero ($111.50)BB ($98.50)UTG ($63.30)MP ($85.30)Preflop: Hero is SB with A, 8. Hero posts a blind of $0.50. UTG raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero (poster) calls $2.50, BB calls $2.Flop: ($9) 4, T, 8(3 players)Hero checks, BB bets $4, UTG calls $4, Hero raises to $12, BB folds, UTG raises to $30, Hero calls $96.50 (All-In)...Same villain as the other hand.

[fckthis 0]

Doesnt seem right. I think you only have 9(at best) outs, with 0% fold equity.

[AlphaOmega 0]

Doesnt seem right. I think you only have 9(at best) outs, with 0% fold equity.

Yea, I didn't remember him call/three-betting in the actual hand, which usually means 0 fold equity as you said. It also means a set is more likely so my equity is pretty bad in that situation.

[Scott3705 0]

Doesnt seem right. I think you only have 9(at best) outs, with 0% fold equity.

How can he have 9 outs at best? he always has atleast 9 outs. The way UTG played it tho, it does look a lot like 10 10 or possibly kq of diamonds which I wouldn't take outof his range. UTG is clearly short enough to make the call after he moves in tho.

[Peak01 0]

Get it all in here. If villian had a set I don't think they would just call first time around with a flush and straight draw out there. I think you have 12-14 outs more often than not here.

[NoSup4U 0]

Why call pf?MarkEdit: I retract that, I didn't notice we were 5 handed.

[AlphaOmega 0]

Why call pf?Mark

I find that most players at this level play fairly straightforward/weak postflop. I don't suffer from RIOs because I'm not going to stack off with just an ace if I flop one, whereas the same is often not true of my opponents.

[MasterLJ 0]

I find that most players at this level play fairly straightforward/weak postflop. I don't suffer from RIOs because I'm not going to stack off with just an ace if I flop one, whereas the same is often not true of my opponents.

Plus, two pair will get paid off by TPTK, and furthermore, A8 sooted has a pretty high chance of being the best hand short-handed.

[Dannon 0]

I did not like the play at all. First off I could see me folding the hand preflop. The flop was fantastic for you, but you have no reason to believe you have the best posible hand. After the bet-call, you'r probably on a draw. I would easily just call. There is such a huge variety of hands that beat you that I don't even want to go into it. You may think you have 14 outs (9 diamonds, 2 eights, and 3 aces), but you may very well only have 11 (up against something like A10) or worse (a 10 10 leaves you at 9 outs, or what if one player had a 10 10 and the other had KdQd!). I would without a doubt just call the bet and see if I can hit a diamond. If I do, I can win a big pot. If I hit an 8, I have real chances of winning but will still keep losing in mind. If I don't hit either, I can fold easily. Great players odn't like puting their money in on a draw!

[krup24 0]

if anybody folds this to a 3x BB raise in the SB shorthanded you should without a doubt stick to full ring.i kinda like the raise but I may tend to smooth call the BBs lead or lead the flop cause this was definitely a C/R gone bad. Kinda weird intial raiser calls BBs bet but wants to getem in when you raise. I really don't see this as serious strength and I give you 14 outs here. I mean he had to think you would fold, right.

[NoSup4U 0]

I find that most players at this level play fairly straightforward/weak postflop. I don't suffer from RIOs because I'm not going to stack off with just an ace if I flop one, whereas the same is often not true of my opponents.

My bad, totally didn't notice this was 5 handed.Mark