Help With Poker In General.

[albasuna 0]

I've blown up my bankroll at least 3 times. My problem is tilting, playing to high and just having unrealistic goals. I'm virtually broke again and would like some advice on how to stay straight headed. Seems like I'm going to have to take a break from poker for awhile but once I get back I know the same problem is going to occur and I just don't want it to be a reoccuring theme in my poker career. All the money I've lost have been profit but it's still a big stinger to me and my poker dreams.plz help I'm young and need to get my head screwed back into place.

[albasuna 0]

basically how do you not piss away all your money.

[Zach6668 513]

play good?

[albasuna 0]

play good?

that helps but the coolers are just unstopable.

[jburn812 0]

BBFIDTS? Play within your bankroll....

[eYank 0]

that helps but the coolers are just unstopable.

I used to think this but after a while you realize its not trueAlso you need to have realistic goalsThe best thing is play within your roll and build it up before moving upBy then you will have built up enough money where some bad beats wont kill you and take off a day or 2 if you feel like your on tilt

[albasuna 0]

I used to think this but after a while you realize its not trueAlso you need to have realistic goalsThe best thing is play within your roll and build it up before moving upBy then you will have built up enough money where some bad beats wont kill you and take off a day or 2 if you feel like your on tilt

I dunno how you guys do it... tilt is like the ultimate nightmare.

[Cappy37 0]

I dunno how you guys do it... tilt is like the ultimate nightmare IN TOURNAMENTS.

FYP. One donkey can kill your entire tournament, a complete dead weight loss. A donkey in a cash game now has a section of your chips and is feeling "good" about overplaying KQ. You can get those chips back in time, and you aren't "knocked out" of anything. The problem with tourneys is when you get donkstruck, it is over. El finito. Waiter, check, please! And then you go and spew in a couple more tourneys, and your losses mount up. While you have fixed-losses, the "finality" of a tourney loss can really soil your mood, for days at a time. Whereas in a cash game, you get two new cards after the beat takes place and can start right over where you left of.You still need emotional control in cash games, don't get me wrong. And for the love of god, *never* move up in limits to chase losses when you are on a bad run. Always ask yourself one question: "Am I ready for this to be the last day I play poker for a long, long time?" Because you are setting yourself up for that scenario when you swing for the fences over your bankroll.

[Sheiky 0]

What i did to avert this problem was to self exclude my account for the maximum but start with a dollar on my other account and really practise good poker and money management because i knew that if i lost it i would have to wait 180 days till i could play again.And play within your limits, coolers don't hurt as much when you're br can sustain it.

[albasuna 0]

FYP. One donkey can kill your entire tournament, a complete dead weight loss. A donkey in a cash game now has a section of your chips and is feeling "good" about overplaying KQ. You can get those chips back in time, and you aren't "knocked out" of anything. The problem with tourneys is when you get donkstruck, it is over. El finito. Waiter, check, please! And then you go and spew in a couple more tourneys, and your losses mount up. While you have fixed-losses, the "finality" of a tourney loss can really soil your mood, for days at a time. Whereas in a cash game, you get two new cards after the beat takes place and can start right over where you left of.You still need emotional control in cash games, don't get me wrong. And for the love of god, *never* move up in limits to chase losses when you are on a bad run. Always ask yourself one question: "Am I ready for this to be the last day I play poker for a long, long time?" Because you are setting yourself up for that scenario when you swing for the fences over your bankroll.

Thanks for all your guys advice. I think I've realized my problems and it starts with a simple spark that lights up my own personal doomswitch. I'm gonna stop playing poker for awhile and focus on school (maybe going busto was for the greater good) I'll probably start it up once I save up 200 for winter break. With my 200 (labor money not poker profit money) I'll probably play 5.50 5k gtd err day for 3 weeks straight. I wont look to play poker for the money but for the love of the game. And maybe a year or 2 from now I could work enough money to actually start a decent BR for some real tournaments.Oh and cappy do you play as a hobby? or do you play for some serious money?

[eYank 0]

Thanks for all your guys advice. I think I've realized my problems and it starts with a simple spark that lights up my own personal doomswitch. I'm gonna stop playing poker for awhile and focus on school (maybe going busto was for the greater good) I'll probably start it up once I save up 200 for winter break. With my 200 (labor money not poker profit money) I'll probably play 5.50 5k gtd err day for 3 weeks straight. I wont look to play poker for the money but for the love of the game. And maybe a year or 2 from now I could work enough money to actually start a decent BR for some real tournaments.Oh and cappy do you play as a hobby? or do you play for some serious money?

yeah, unless your going to be playing almost every day, multiple tournaments/day you cant be looking to make enough money playing poker as if its a jobslowly build up a BR so you can move up and maybe 6-8 months from now youll be able to cash out a little and feel good about it

[Frez 0]

My problem is tilting, playing to high and just having unrealistic goals.

It seems to me you already know the answers.

[No_Neck 0]

I had to set a stop loss for myself, SHNLE is the devil... but yeah 3 buyins down and I am done for the day.

[albasuna 0]

I had to set a stop loss for myself, SHNLE is the devil... but yeah 3 buyins down and I am done for the day.

LOL i guess i was playing way to high i had a br for 2 buy ins in the limit i titled off in.

[finztotheleft 0]

2 buys ins ?!?!Read up on bankroll management. Staying within your limits is to make sure that you don't go broke and to prepare your game skill wise for the next level.I'm concerned that if you can't master staying within your limits that you will be back this winter complaining that you lost the $2000Good Luck !

[ActionFalko 0]

I had to set a stop loss for myself, SHNLE is the devil... but yeah 3 buyins down and I am done for the day.

This is the best idea. If you have a bad streak quit tfor one or two days read some poker texts and learn some theory. And then come back and do better

[Roberts2003 0]

LOL i guess i was playing way to high i had a br for 2 buy ins in the limit i titled off in.

LOL 2 buy ins. I have gone on a 15 buy in downswing, and I am pretty sure others on here have had similar experiences. The best feeling ever is when you are playing over rolled and you don't need to worry about going on a downswing. The next time you start again, try really hard to have at least 20 buy ins in any level you play. Playing on 2 buy ins is basically like playing craps or roulette. If thats what you want poker to be for you, why not just bet it all on red now and get it over with?

[Sheiky 0]

^What he said.Starting out with a micro bankroll you have to play under-rolled for a while and it's quite hard, but once you get to a stage when you can play comfotably it's so good.

[Gene zzz 0]

The buyin thing is an internet problem and a casino problem why play in a game with a minium buyin? It should be that a buyin is the min. you can buyin for not max; also I think the attitute of bankrolling today has become a business mangement thing were gambling is not the best route to money in business as a whole ;so these"shop keeping" players aren't in the right field at the idea level. When you gamble you can lose on a good bet but not in the end so minus bad bets you have made money in the economic sense; You should go over the hands that cost you so much, I have played wiith some heavy losers and I know they don't flinch because they know that luck will come back around; I am sure you don't steam so bad you'd kill right. So my advice is take your whole bank roll and buyin as high as you can what is it say 400 on one event and count every card as your last and remember what you did wrong or what luck you had ( everyone has luck in poker , the winner of the WSOPe main had great luck going allin with A10 and being called by AJ, that is a 2million dollar bet on ace ten) there is a threshold of truth were it matters to you ...SURVIAL.... or just quit the good boy stuff I am doing that and I have the monopoly;

[Roberts2003 0]

The buyin thing is an internet problem and a casino problem why play in a game with a minium buyin? It should be that a buyin is the min. you can buyin for not max; also I think the attitute of bankrolling today has become a business mangement thing were gambling is not the best route to money in business as a whole ;so these"shop keeping" players aren't in the right field at the idea level. When you gamble you can lose on a good bet but not in the end so minus bad bets you have made money in the economic sense; You should go over the hands that cost you so much, I have played wiith some heavy losers and I know they don't flinch because they know that luck will come back around; I am sure you don't steam so bad you'd kill right. So my advice is take your whole bank roll and buyin as high as you can what is it say 400 on one event and count every card as your last and remember what you did wrong or what luck you had ( everyone has luck in poker , the winner of the WSOPe main had great luck going allin with A10 and being called by AJ, that is a 2million dollar bet on ace ten) there is a threshold of truth were it matters to you ...SURVIAL.... or just quit the good boy stuff I am doing that and I have the monopoly;

this is such flawed thinking its not even funny. wow. he posts about avoiding going broke and you say put it all on the line? do you understand variance? again, if you want to do this, just bet it all on red. seriously.

[mln_falcon 0]

1c/2c, learn br management and learn to play for fun before you play for money. Not everyone can be pro.

[wheezer16 0]

When i feel tilted I uninstall the software from my computer...this forces me to take a break until I feel ready to play again.

[Snamuh 0]

Start from the bottom. Play the highest stakes you can afford with 10 buyins if less than 50 NL. 50 NL or above, have 20+ buyins. Move up slowly and your game will improve. I am 100x the player I was 10 months ago when I started at .02/.05 on BugsysClub with $4.50 from a freeroll (this was the lowest stakes offered). Now I've grinded to $3400 playing 50 NL and now 100 NL.

[hblask 1]

Follow all the advice above..... so I've got nothing to add there.One thought regarding tilt, though... a phrase that has helped me lately is when someone makes a terrible play and it pays off, I just tell myself "They tried to give me their money, but they are so bad they failed. Oh well, they'll succeed eventually."Also, as a limit player, my theoretical max profit is 2BB/100. That's one bad call to the river out of every 100 hands I play. So I ask myself if this is the hand that I want to blow my last hour's profit on just because some donkey sucked out. (If you play NL, one tilt hand can also blow a couple hours of hard work).

[psujohn 0]

If you play NL, one tilt hand can also blow a couple days of hard work

FYPI've been suffering from a strange form of tilt on and off for the last few months. It's basically becoming an aggro-donk and trying to win every pot I'm in. Not necessarily caused by a bad beat. Just the feeling that "I'm better than all these donkeys and should be taking all their money". It leads to weird FPS and unnecessary bluffs against people who simply can't be bluffed. The funny part is that I can control it for a while - play ABC TAG poker and win consistently - and then it seems to break out again.It's kind of frustrating that I seem to have to learn the same lesson over and over again. But I keep telling myself a variation on Henry's line. "Don't work hard to take money from people that are so willing to give it away". If you just wait for the situations where they're giving it away the game is pretty easy.