troutsmart

I'm in your elite company OP. I too had quads taken down by a royal, though I turned my quads vs. flopping them. And I was holding a non-paired pocket (QJ) vs. your pocket (JJ). The odds are the stuff that could give MIT grads a headache. What I found extraordinary in my case was the fact that this hand occured when we were playing 3-handed at the end of a tournament. The hilarious part was the reaction of the 5 people left in the room. When my opponent went all-in on the river, which gave him the royal, I simply said in a rather dry manner as I called, "I have the queen." He flipped

At around 10k hands, you will start to get a vague reflection of your play. Don't be surprised though if your results are different after 50k or 100k hands. Some stats won't vary much, but others, such as BB/100 hands could vary dramatically.

Easy automatic all-in... only superman with x-ray vision can fold here.

20 to 1 chip disadvantage going heads-up after suffering a bad beat. End up getting several fortunate breaks and narrowed it down to about 3 to 1...then was able to actually start playing again. Ended up winning, but not before facing my own scare when I had him on the ropes and the cards started hitting him.

Live -- $540 at BellagioOnline -- $550

It should be noted that even when a player does abide by a 300BB bankroll, and plays correctly, they still have a chance of going broke. Skillful play and playing within your bankroll simply reduces the odds that it will happen.

In tournaments, luck definitely has an enormous factor. A player can never make a mistake and still end up on the rail. I have no idea how that can be quantified.In cash games, luck is significantly reduced, but still remains a significant factor. I'm hesitant to throw out any kind of number, but I'll take the 60/40 edge of skill over luck in any proposition over the long haul.

This is a rather unique hand. In fact, I'm not sure if I've personally seen a pot such as this, and I thought I had seen everything. As for the way you played the hand, I would have played it the same.

If I know of upcoming matches that Daniel has, I'll try to get down to Vegas and get a bunch of pictures. I'm kind of a photo nut, and although rather non-changing, this would at least be something unique. Using any flash definitely wouldn't work and the Wynn is pretty poorly lit at the poker room, but I'm sure some good pictures could be taken. I'd have to ask Daniel if it were okay, of course.

In all likelyhood, you don't need to feel remorse that you might have thrown away the winner, as I'm pretty sure you were toast. However, you do need to concern yourself with your play after the flop. QQ isn't the type of hand to play a larger pot with post flop with an Ace on board. Granted, against a good player, you might take this pot away with your turn play, but in such low blind games, it is very unlikely. Definitely kick up that flop bet. There was $3.50 in the pot, so don't go less than $2. With less, you definitely open up the door to be outplayed, or outdrawn. You have t

September 20, 2004... Biggest pot I've won in Limit: $30/60 Limit at Bellagio...44BBs.... TT on a board of KTTJQ... with 4 players to the river. The Irony: (Excerpt from Poker Journal Entry) "September 20, 2004... -70BB $30/60 Limit @ Bellagio 11.5 Hours . The poker gods blessed me with one great hand, and 50 hands straight from hell!"That would be the largest pot I've won in live limit and the largest live limit loss on the same day.Funny coincidence: This is the first time I saw Mr. Negreanu, as I passed him on my way to the restroom. I came back from that restroom and didn't win

I agree that this is the most damaging side-effect of playing beyond what your bankroll allows. As for Akishore, I wish you the best man. I always enjoy reading what you have to share and am confident you'll be back on top soon.

A regular player will experience such a downturn every 7-10K hands would be my guesstimate. I don't know, Smash would be able to give you a more actuarate number with his huge database. Larger swings do happen as well. I usually have a -100 BB downswing every 25K hands or so. Take a step back, review your hand histories, and start playing again if you don't see anything amiss. Most downswings are corrected shortly if you play through them. The key is simply to keep your head, and don't do anything drastic. If you're adequetly bankrolled, and playing correctly, you'll soon be back on

Move down to the 10c tables if you can... you need at least 300 to play 25c...minimum

Barry Greenstein gives a good line in his book An ace on the river, "Stick around. I make worse plays than that one."