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Villain tripled up first hand with full house over str8 and some other garbage and has been bleeding chips mainly but haven't seen any other hands. Is pre-flop good? On the flop I want to check/call but when he shoves I'm just clueless/skeered of what to do. Looking back he probably wouldn't do this with the Q but at this level you never know.feral_cow_icon.gifCows play poker with cow chipsPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($2.00+$0.20) t15/t30 - 9 playersButton: t3,375 SB: t2,650 BB: t2,825 UTG: t2,710 UTG+1: t2,200 MP: t6,685 (Hero)MP2: t3,085 HJ: t3,250 CO: t5,940 Preflop: (t45) Hero is MP with Ac.gifAd.gif (9 players)2 folds, Hero raises to t90, 2 folds, CO raises to t150, 2 folds, BB calls t120, Hero raises to t500, CO calls t350, BB calls t350Flop: (t1,515) Qc.gifQd.gif8h.gif (3 players)BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets t5440 and is all-in, BB folds, Hero ?

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I can't find a fold here vs described villain. Call it off imoI generally think villains will try to slow play or bet smaller with a Q/88 in these spots.Pre-flop sizing is pretty good, but vs laggy villains who will call too wide regardless of price, we can go pretty exploitably big here, like 750 or so.

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Villain tripled up first hand with full house over str8 and some other garbage and has been bleeding chips mainly but haven't seen any other hands. Is pre-flop good? On the flop I want to check/call but when he shoves I'm just clueless/skeered of what to do. Looking back he probably wouldn't do this with the Q but at this level you never know.feral_cow_icon.gifCows play poker with cow chipsPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($2.00+$0.20) t15/t30 - 9 playersButton: t3,375 SB: t2,650 BB: t2,825 UTG: t2,710 UTG+1: t2,200 MP: t6,685 (Hero)MP2: t3,085 HJ: t3,250 CO: t5,940 Preflop: (t45) Hero is MP with Ac.gifAd.gif (9 players)2 folds, Hero raises to t90, 2 folds, CO raises to t150, 2 folds, BB calls t120, Hero raises to t500, CO calls t350, BB calls t350Flop: (t1,515) Qc.gifQd.gif8h.gif (3 players)BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets t5440 and is all-in, BB folds, Hero ?
Looks like a snap to me... like 10s or something that thinks he found a safe flop
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Thanks for the responses, I guess I suck because I folded. I guess instead of worrying about protecting my stack early on I should be looking to build it more. Looking back (like the moment after I hit fold) I thought I made a horrible fold and kicked myself the rest of my "session". That fold probably was a big factor in why I min. cashed instead of making a deeper run. I just didn't have the stack once the bubble rolled around to abuse it. Oh well, next time I'm in a similar situation I will call this.

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Folding isn't bad here either. I'd be hesitant too about sticking a 6,685 stack in with blinds 15/30. There will always be future spots. This particiular hand is just read dependant on folding.

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  • 2 weeks later...

looks a lot like JJ to me imo or 10's im snapping

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looks a lot like JJ to me imo or 10's im snapping
Yeah. I think you will see Qx a decent %, but much more often this is a smaller PP. However, I think we need to c-bet this flop, and I'm still calling a raise when we do. So many fish think like this 'ZOMG THE BOTH OBV HAVE ACE KING SO I MUCT GO ALLIN BEFORE THEY CATCH!!!!'
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I would never ever fold this, especially if its against the type of player you've described. Its not really about trying to build a massive stack early on, its more just more a case of using ur good judgement of the situation at hand and trusting your read. If you're wrong, u lose $2.20. But realistically he's hardly ever gonna have u beat here.

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